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SkyerIst_Huiesos said:
Miyamotoo said:

You can buy 1st party and 3rd party games digitally also, so if list is not accurate it goes in both directions, for 1st party and 3rd party.

That attach rate says that Zelda BotW currently is more popular on Switch than GTAV is on any other platform, 

looool, you are funny 

Around 80% Switch owners bought Zelda BotW, for instance around 25% PS4 owners bought GTA V, how exactly I am funny!?



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Miyamotoo said:
SkyerIst_Huiesos said:

looool, you are funny 

Around 80% Switch owners bought Zelda BotW, for instance around 25% PS4 owners bought GTA V, how exactly I am funny!?

by saying that gta V is more popular than zelda, which is false



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Miyamotoo said:

Some people think that 1st party games on PS4 are doing great and they have great sales, reality is that PS4 has only one 1st party game in top 10 best selling games, and only three 1st party games in top 30 best selling games.

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Grand Theft Auto V PS4 2014 Action Take-Two Interactive 4.63 7.76 0.49 2.37 15.25
2 Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 PS4 2015 Shooter Activision 5.99 6.09 0.37 2.41 14.85
3 FIFA 17 PS4 2016 Sports Electronic Arts 1.18 7.94 0.12 1.59 10.82
4 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End PS4 2016 Shooter Sony Computer Entertainment 3.97 3.42 0.20 1.49 9.08
5 FIFA 16 PS4 2015 Sports Electronic Arts 1.14 6.15 0.07 1.29 8.64
6 Star Wars Battlefront (2015) PS4 2015 Shooter Electronic Arts 3.24 3.66 0.23 1.36 8.48
7 Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare PS4 2014 Shooter Activision 2.84 3.48 0.14 1.24 7.70
8 Fallout 4 PS4 2015 Role-Playing Bethesda Softworks 2.65 3.50 0.25 1.20 7.60
9 Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare PS4 2016 Shooter Activision 2.72 3.12 0.19 1.15 7.18
10 Battlefield 1 PS4 2016 Shooter Electronic Arts 1.97 3.59 0.28 1.05 6.89
11 FIFA 15 PS4 2014 Sports Electronic Arts 0.81 4.33 0.05 0.91 6.09
12 Destiny PS4 2014 Shooter Activision 2.51 2.07 0.16 0.93 5.67
13 The Last of Us PS4 2014 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.24 2.27 0.08 0.90 5.48
14 Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection PS4 2015 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.24 1.89 0.09 0.84 5.06
15 Minecraft PS4 2014 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment Europe 1.73 2.33 0.19 0.79 5.04
16 Final Fantasy XV PS4 2016 Role-Playing Square Enix 1.42 1.63 0.97 0.60 4.61
17 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt PS4 2015 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 1.13 2.32 0.25 0.65 4.34
18 Tom Clancy's The Division PS4 2016 Shooter Ubisoft 1.44 2.04 0.16 0.67 4.31
19 Batman: Arkham Knight PS4 2015 Action Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment 1.65 1.76 0.11 0.68 4.20
20 Watch Dogs PS4 2014 Action Ubisoft 1.40 1.94 0.11 0.65 4.10
21 Far Cry 4 PS4 2014 Shooter Ubisoft 1.16 2.18 0.11 0.63 4.08
22 Assassin's Creed: Unity PS4 2014 Action Ubisoft 1.20 2.12 0.09 0.63 4.05
23 NBA 2K16 PS4 2015 Sports Take-Two Interactive 2.53 0.66 0.05 0.70 3.93
24 Call of Duty: Ghosts PS4 2013 Shooter Activision 1.79 1.43 0.05 0.57 3.84
25 Battlefield 4 PS4 2013 Shooter Electronic Arts 1.38 1.55 0.18 0.52 3.63
26 Assassin's Creed Syndicate PS4 2015 Action Ubisoft 0.86 2.07 0.07 0.54 3.55
27 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain PS4 2015 Action Konami Digital Entertainment 1.12 1.36 0.50 0.49 3.46
28 Madden NFL 16 PS4 2015 Sports Electronic Arts 2.37 0.30 0.00 0.60 3.27
29 NBA 2K17 PS4 2016 Sports Take-Two Interactive 2.07 0.48 0.03 0.56 3.15
30 Overwatch PS4 2016 Shooter Activision 1.20 1.28 0.17 0.49 3.13

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=&platform=PS4&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

Op is not saying a lie.

But it wil get better.

I'm looking forward to E3. 

NobleTeam360 said:
Two of them are just ports/remasters of PS3 games as well

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Uncharted, the last of us, Gran Turismo and God of war. That's 4 mega first party titles that people buy Sony consoles for. You can add Horizon to the list now.

Just because third parties do megaton numbers doesn't mean many millions don't buy a ps for first party.

When all is said and done more will have bought a PS4 for first party then the WiiU had. And that was that consoles main appeal.



The whole reason for Exclusives isn't to sell 15+ million copies of that, I'm sure every developer wants that, but for the majority of people that are not delusional, exclusives exists to widen the gaming library and to diversify the playerbase. Take me for an example, I never would have thought about buying a PS4 for any game except Persona 5, but if you look at my overall Library on PSN(just PS4), I've spent close to $600 on games total($180 just these few months T_T), both multiplatform and exclusives. Now I'm sure I'm not the only one, even if there was 10 of me out there like that, that is $6,000 of revenue generated easy just by having one exclusive. Obviously even if they're not selling 5-10 million copies, they're still making good revenue considering Sony is just pumping out exclusives.



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Miyamotoo said:

 

 

naruball said:
That's some weird logic. 

Ps consoles sell well because of diversity. Looking at the top 30, I only own FFXV. Nothing else. And yet I own more than 100 games already. I'm sure that's the case for many people. 

Just because a game sells 1m or even less, it doesn't mean it's not a system seller. Someone may have bought a ps4 for Nino Kuni 2, others for Until Dawn. Bottom line, it has such a strong catalogue that ignoring it (as well as all the psn games) and focusing on the best performing games makes little to no sense.

There is nothing about logic, but point that 1st party games are not nearly popular or system sellers like some people are think on PS4.

At least we agree on something.

Also, who are these some people? And how did you draw that conclusion based on vgc numbers of the 30 best selling games? Why do ignore the rest?



This is just a weird thread. The cutoff point at 30 is also completely arbitrary, since you could just as well say that there are three first party titles in the top 15, or that there are nine first party titles in the top 50. All of which have sold over 2 million copies, so them not being popular is also just false.



mjk45 said:
Barkley said:

You're trying to spin this into a bad thing though, why is it bad that third party games are doing so well? It'd only be bad if these games that sell so well weren't on the system.

You could also spin it to say 3 1st party games in top 15.

Yes if he stopped at 15th then it would have still been 3. Also if he expanded to top 40... it would have been 7 1st-party titles not 3.

Top 30 was chosen because it exaggerates his point the most. Expand by 10 that adds 4 more 1st-party titles, so can't do that. Reduce by 10 doesn't remove any 1st-party titles so can't do that either!



 

what's the definition for popular ? how do you know if the game is popular or not ? i think we should begin with these things first



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Miyamotoo said:
vivster said:

That's just completely wrong. 1st party games are a lot more than just nice additions. Most people wouldn't even consider getting a PS4 if it didn't have its wide range of top notch exclusives. They have the most hype behind them. They're the reason why things like PSX exist, they're the things everyone looks forward to in their press conferences. Sony wouldn't even be close to the popularity they have today if it wasn't for their wide range of exclusives.

That's not true, if that is true 1st party games would be much higher on list, you woldnt had only 3 1st party games that sold above 3m, most people are buying PS4 for 3rd party games on 1st place and sales proves that.

No it does not. Selling a system is not the same as selling itself. Units of a first party game sold has nothing to do with how many consoles that game sold. It's always the big picture. People buy the PS4 because due to the breadth of exclusives they are bound to get. Those don't even have to be 1st party, they can also be 3rd party console exclusives.

What matters is that people are promised exclusives and they'll get them. Which ones they actually buy is a completely different matter. Stop comparing the PS4 to platforms who's sole purpose of existence is selling exclusive games. Selling exclusives is not the purpose of the PS4 but it's still the main draw.



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