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Boutros on 30 May 2017

LipeJJ said:

Is it that healthy for first party like you say tho? So far, the only game in the top 10 is Uncharted 4 (heavily bundled btw). After that, you have 2 PS3 games made by Naughty Dog, and then the first original PS4 game made by a Sony studio is inFamous: Second Son, with around 3m sales. After that, obivously all Sony published games are ranging from 1~2m sales only. Now you have Horizon, which will sell very well, but that couple with Uncharted only is not much after being almost 4 years on the market. First party on PS isn't healthy if you're not Naughty Dog, it's decent... at best.

Which first-party PS4 game did only decent (except The Order)?

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Boutros said:

LipeJJ said:

Is it that healthy for first party like you say tho? So far, the only game in the top 10 is Uncharted 4 (heavily bundled btw). After that, you have 2 PS3 games made by Naughty Dog, and then the first original PS4 game made by a Sony studio is inFamous: Second Son, with around 3m sales. After that, obivously all Sony published games are ranging from 1~2m sales only. Now you have Horizon, which will sell very well, but that couple with Uncharted only is not much after being almost 4 years on the market. First party on PS isn't healthy if you're not Naughty Dog, it's decent... at best.

Which first-party PS4 game did only decent (except The Order)?

DriveClub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Knack, KillZone: Shadow Fall, Gravity Rush 2, Until Dawn, The Last Guardian, God of War III Remaster, Tearaway Unfolded, etc.

Which is a shame, since most of these games are very well done. Tearaway Unfolded sales broke my heart... it deserved so much more.

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Kerotan on 30 May 2017

LipeJJ said:

Boutros said:

Which first-party PS4 game did only decent (except The Order)?

DriveClub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Knack, KillZone: Shadow Fall, Gravity Rush 2, Until Dawn, The Last Guardian, God of War III Remaster, Tearaway Unfolded, etc.

Which is a shame, since most of these games are very well done. Tearaway Unfolded sales broke my heart... it deserved so much more.

But then you can add huge sellers like God of war 4, the last of us 2 and gran turismo.

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LipeJJ said:

Boutros said:

Which first-party PS4 game did only decent (except The Order)?

DriveClub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Knack, KillZone: Shadow Fall, Gravity Rush 2, Until Dawn, The Last Guardian, God of War III Remaster, Tearaway Unfolded, etc.

Which is a shame, since most of these games are very well done. Tearaway Unfolded sales broke my heart... it deserved so much more.

and PSVR games like Until Dawn: Rush of Blood or PlayStation VR Worlds

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in addition - Gravity Rush 2/Gravity Rush Remastered and The Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls Collection

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Boutros on 30 May 2017

LipeJJ said:

Boutros said:

Which first-party PS4 game did only decent (except The Order)?

DriveClub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Knack, KillZone: Shadow Fall, Until Dawn, The Last Guardian, God of War III Remaster, Tearaway Unfolded, etc.

Which is a shame, since most of these games are very well done. Tearaway Unfolded sales broke my heart... it deserved so much more.

All of them sold at least good...and some of those really great (Until Dawn, Killzone).

Except Tearaway Unfolded which did poorly but it's also not surprising at all.

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SuperBott said:

LipeJJ said:

DriveClub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Knack, KillZone: Shadow Fall, Gravity Rush 2, Until Dawn, The Last Guardian, God of War III Remaster, Tearaway Unfolded, etc.

Which is a shame, since most of these games are very well done. Tearaway Unfolded sales broke my heart... it deserved so much more.

and PSVR games like Until Dawn: Rush of Blood or PlayStation VR Worlds

Aren't those at like 50% attach rate? That's pretty amazing actually..

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Miyamotoo on 31 May 2017

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Miyamotoo said:

But fact that 9 of 10 best selling PS4 game are 3rd party games proves my point that most people buying PS4 for 3rd party on 1st place. If you have big numbers for 1st party games you wouldnt had only one 1st party game in top 10 best selling games.

The fact that a lot of first party games are posting big numbers with some of the biggest still to come shows millions buy it for the first party. It just seems less because third party titles have sold behemoth numbers on the ps4.

For example more people will buy the ps4 for first party games then will have bought the Wii U for first party. It only seems small because as I said third parties do insane numbers on Playstation.

Again, if that 1st party games are really so much popular and posting big numbers, we wouldn't had only one 1st party game that was actually heavily bundled in top 10 best selling PS4 games. Other interesting info, in top 30 best selling PS4 games, you have only 3 1st party games. Simple, because huge majority of PS4 owners dont care about Sony 1st party games, only U4 has bigger sales with attach rate above 10%.

Over 90% people bought Wii U because 1st party games, while majority people bought PS4 because 3rd party games, just look list of best selling games on Wii U or even Wii that had huge number of games, in both examples in top 10 best selling games you have 10 1st party games, in PS4 case just one game in top ten and one three in top 30.

LipeJJ said:

Kerotan said:

The fact that a lot of first party games are posting big numbers with some of the biggest still to come shows millions buy it for the first party. It just seems less because third party titles have sold behemoth numbers on the ps4.

Ps4 absolutely dominates console software sales. It's a combination of insane third party sales and big first party sales.

For example more people will buy the ps4 for first party games then will have bought the Wii U for first party. It only seems small because as I said third parties do insane numbers on Playstation.

Is it that healthy for first party like you say tho? So far, the only game in the top 10 is Uncharted 4 (heavily bundled btw). After that, you have 2 PS3 games made by Naughty Dog, and then the first original PS4 game made by a Sony studio is inFamous: Second Son, with around 3m sales. After that, obivously all Sony published games are ranging from 1~2m sales only. Now you have Horizon, which will sell very well, but that couple with Uncharted only is not much after being almost 4 years on the market. First party on PS isn't healthy if you're not Naughty Dog, it's decent... at best.

Another comparison that show how much 3rd party games are much more popular than PS4 1st party games is, that PS4 has only 3 1st party games in top 30 best selling PS4 games, so its very obvious that huge majority of people is buying PS4 for 1st party games on 1st place.