With the release of AMD's RX Vega nearing, one must ask themselves, how will it perform, and when will it finally come out.

For people who do not know:
    RX Vega is AMD's next generation of GPUs set to release in  Q2 2017.
    RX Vega is set to be the first card for regular consumers that features HBM2.
    RX Vega is aiming to compete with Nvidia's high end range of GPUs.
    RX Vega has many improvements over AMD's past generation of chips, in respect to the architecture.
    The PS4 Pro currently uses Some Vega tech in the custom GPU it posses, where as the Scorpio apparently does not.
    RX Vega supports support rapid packed math (two FP16 operations in the same time as a FP32 operation) like the PS4 Pro and Switch, and the last few                 generations of Nvidia cards.

Personally I think that Vega will release in May of 2017, or early June 2017.

I hope it (realistically):
    Is about 15 — 20% faster than the Titan Xp or GTX 1080Ti, FP32 TFLOPs wise (about 13.5 TFLOPs).
    Has about 750 — 1000+ GB/s of memory bandwidth (GTX 1080 Ti has ~ 484 GB/s).
    Launches at or below 700 — 800 US.
    Delivers on the promises of the advanced architecture.
    Has a consumer SKU with 8GB or more of RAM.

I am looking forward to reading your responses.

Yeah, the information came out just as I posted, I could not be bothered to edit my post.
I also know about the Linux stuff.

Well, there's been two leaked benchmarks for Vega that puts it between the GTX 1070 and the 1080, so there's very, very little chance of Vega being faster than a Titan Xp or 1080Ti.

Also, there will be two Vega models, one with 4GB and the other with 8GB of HBM2. Yes, I know that launching a Vega card with only 4GB makes little sense, but they'll so it.

The more leaks we get, the more it seems likely that AMD are releasing a late catch up to the 1070 and 1080, which is quote disappointing, especially if the 1080 catch up is going to cost what Nvidia already priced theirs down to since the release of the 1080ti.

If it's not at least 3-5% above the 1080 it's DOA. Expecting a price tag similar to the 1080, maybe above.

In what universe is that realistic at all?

On par with the Titan +- 2% is my maximum prediction.

Expect one of the Vega GPU's to perform around the Geforce 1070 - 1080.

At-least one Vega variant is launching this year.

And the hype train begins... Hopefully it's not a let down. People overhyped Phenom, Phenom 2, Bulldozer, Ryzen, Fury... And more. And they were all dissapointments in retrospect.

Can you outline what those improvements are and what technology the Playstation 4 uses that Vega has?

Also Scorpio does have some features/characteristics found in Vega.
And I quote:
"According to Goossen, some performance optimisations from the upcoming AMD Vega architecture factor into the Scorpio Engine's design, but other features that made it into PS4 Pro - for example, double-rate FP16 processing - do not."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-the-scorpio-engine-in-depth

That tends to follow past precedents. May to July is when most of AMD's GPU's tend to drop as that fits in with the OEM cycles. It's expected.

   

I was hoping you were going to be realistic. I would not expect 20% better performance than Titan unless we are looking at some edge-case scenario's like resolutions higher than 4k and lots of Asynchronous Compute.

HBM 1 had a bandwidth of 512GB/s and 4GB on Fury.
HBM 2 will double both for the same amount of chips/complexity and one must assume, cost.
So 1024GB/s and 8GB with a possible 2048GB and 16GB configurations.

Those specs have been known for over a year already. It's not really new.

However, according to the 3D Mark leak, Vega had a core clock of 1.2Ghz.

4096 Shaders * 2 instructions * 1.2Ghz Core clock. = 9.8 Teraflops. And that fits nicely in the roughly doubling of a Radeon RX 470/570.

We also need to keep in mind that Vega's NCU architecture adopts many of the advancements found in Maxwell and Pascal, so the amount of work it should be able to do should be vastly superior to that of Polaris and older Graphics Core Next designs.

With that, don't compare AMD's flops against nVidia's. It will never end well, it's inaccurate and doesn't tell the entire story, Especially when the chippy's aren't even on the market yet.

AMD is in a bit of a bind at the moment. They have a finite amount of resources available.
Plus the Radeon division has just had a massive shakeup about a year or so ago after just renaming GPU's for half a decade and spinkling a few highend cards on top... So we won't see the benefits of that shakeup for another year or two.

There is no such thing as a bad GPU though. Only a bad price. If it it's cheaper than nVidia it could be a big winner.

AMD cards have been cheaper for years at a similar performance level. To gain any share AMD GPUs need to be both better and cheaper.

AMD also needs to beat Nvidia's flagship no matter the price. If the hailed Vega 10 does not come close to a 1080ti, which is not much more than a beefed up Maxwell, they will lose a lot of respect.

I fully expect AMD to get absolutely destroyed by Nvidia. Seriously, from what I'm hearing it can't even beat Pascal and is supposed to release in Q2 2018? That's about the same time that Volta is expected to hit the streets. That's gonne be real ugly. So maybe nothing more than a RX 680 that has to rely on low price to be attractive? I don't know, but I don't expect too much.

Vega 10 is supposed to release within the next couple of months. I expect it to be somewhere between 1080 and 1080ti. That in itself wouldn't be a problem if Navi wasn't so far off. That means not only will AMD be slouching behind again, but it will be crushed completely by Volta long before Navi releases in 2019. So next year we're gonna have the same scenario as this and last year.

We'll know more on May 16th when they reveal more information about Vega and Navi.