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diamuerto said:
naznatips said:
Lol there is so much more depth in pokemon then can fit on one of these posts it's unbelievable. What's even funnier is that Nintendo NEVER mentions most of these deeper gameplay factors (such as individual values, effort values, nature breeding, and so so much more) even in their guides. Pokemon is like a hard candy with a nuggetty center. On the surface is a relatively interesting and unique RPG, but as you dig deeper you find gameplay complexities and battle strategies that could throw the most savvy RPG player for a loop. It's sad that everyone assumes it's a kiddy game because of the cartoon and the fact that the actual game itself is pretty easy. But, if you ever get into competitive online battling, you will find nothing to challenge your strategy and intellect more then a good game of Pokemon! Unfortunately, because most of these deeper gameplay strategies remain hidden from the general gamer, reviewers aren't aware of them either. Nor do reviewers ever take the time to get into the metagame, to see that there is actually a very large community of mature and skilled Pokemon gamers. For more pokemon info see pokemon.marriland.com or serebii.net.

Naah, I don't agree. I mean, I agree that Pokemon games do have very deep strategy, but reviewers definitely know about them. If you look at overall reviews they are most definitely positive. I've read reviews for diamond/pearl and they say (just like in the other games) the reason the game is so good is because of it's satisfying gameplay and deep strategy, even if it is intended for kids(and it is intended for kids).

You got it a little mixed up. You can't say it's not a kiddy game because it is. It was made for kids, and that's why it IS easy and cartoony.

In reality it's a kids game, but the hidden content and depth is what makes it so good. It's a kids game with a real game hidden inside. But it's been around so long many people have realized this by now. Look at all these guys explaining why they like the game so much, there not kids. I've seen tournament winners in pokemon, definitely not kids. The millions and millions of copies sold, not just from kids.

And if that thing about the general gamer missing the deeper gameplay(those are the kids) was meant to be an indirect argument of why I don't like the game, you were wrong ;)


 Sorry I should have rephrased that, people think Pokemon is ONLY a kids game.  Which is fine, I guess, since the pokemon Metagame didn't exist to the mass public until this generation (there was a program called netbattle that let people battle online with fully adjustable pokemon teams before this).  I disagree that reviewers ever know about the deeper strategies involved.  Pokemon got good reviews because it's a good game anyway.  There are plenty of single player functions and online multiplayer with friends is fun too.  But, I doubt they really spent any time seeing what it's like outside a small group of friends.  Anyway, I think everyone here who has played it agrees that it's a great game and not one that should be missed!



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It has an outside shot at Gold/Silver, and easily pass Ruby/Sapphire. Originals are always hard to top though, no series is ever really "new" again.



DKII said:
It has an outside shot at Gold/Silver, and easily pass Ruby/Sapphire. Originals are always hard to top though, no series is ever really "new" again.

 True, but it does happen.  Look at Halo.  Halo 2 sold more than 1 million copies more than Halo.



I guess Pokémon Diamond/Pearl will be the 3rd most sold of the Pokémon games, after RBY and GS. I guess that it can sell about 17 millions.



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naznatips said:
DKII said:
It has an outside shot at Gold/Silver, and easily pass Ruby/Sapphire. Originals are always hard to top though, no series is ever really "new" again.

 True, but it does happen.  Look at Halo.  Halo 2 sold more than 1 million copies more than Halo.


Yup good example.  There are explanations, of course - Halo 2 added online play (new) and Halo 1 was a launch title so was more limited by its userbase.  Though D/P does add online battling, it's with friends-only, no random battles as far as I know.  The universal trading marketplace is pretty cool though.



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DKII said:
naznatips said:
DKII said:
It has an outside shot at Gold/Silver, and easily pass Ruby/Sapphire. Originals are always hard to top though, no series is ever really "new" again.

True, but it does happen. Look at Halo. Halo 2 sold more than 1 million copies more than Halo.


Yup good example. There are explanations, of course - Halo 2 added online play (new) and Halo 1 was a launch title so was more limited by its userbase. Though D/P does add online battling, it's with friends-only, no random battles as far as I know. The universal trading marketplace is pretty cool though.


 Yeah good point.  I think sales will increase again when the Wii title comes out, because it will have DS connectivity for random world battles.  Still, I doubt it ever surpasses RB





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Agreed :)

I have to wonder if in 100 or 200 years (maybe not even that long), if we'll actually have REAL Pokemon. I can just imagine the buying frenzy when they would be released ;)

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