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betacon said:
fordy said:

That's like saying "Guys it's okay. He's not a sexual predator....We just can't believe anything he says anymore"

It's not, there's heaps of things to rightly bash trump on without taking things out of context.

Well, did he or did he not say that, and did he or did he not mean that?

Be careful with your answer here...



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Soundwave said:
o_O.Q said:

 

what is the most "offensive" thing you've said about a woman while in conversation with other men?

I dunno, maybe using the 10 scale to rate their looks, I don't think I really even do that anymore, it's called growing up. Yeah of course locker room banter is juvenile. But I hear guy talk all the time, I've never heard a guy, even the more obnoxious types brag about doing things to women without their consent. That's just weird and creepy. 

I play in a beer league hockey rec league too, so a "real" sport (lol) and we have beers after the game in the locker room and the whole nine yards, so yeah there's a lot of explicit stuff said from time to time but nothing like that. You're a weird fucking dude if you're going around talking about grabbing women without asking them.

Usually guys are talking about their fantasy football league or NHL players or the NBA or their work/boss/school, occassionally it's relationship/girl/"how'd that date go" type talk or how "number X/Y/Z player on the other team is an asshole". 

 

do you ask for a woman's consent everytime you initiate sexual contact?



Under a Capitalist system if you have enough money you can say and do anything you want and get away with it. Bill O"Reilly did not bribe his victims enough to keep their mouths closed.



There a couple business related factors that had nothing to do with advertising. 10 years ago if the rating was still crazy high (which they still have been even after the allegations) they would of waited it out knowing that people attention spans are small and the advertisers would come back because business is business.

The difference now is
1. Fox is trying to buy Sky tv and the British regulators suppose to make there decision in the near future. Allegations of a culture of sexual harassment have been a factor in there decision. Bill O'Reilly might of made Fox a lot of money but not enough for them to risk a billion dollar deal on

2. Rupert Murdoch is still in charge but his children is growing in influence and they care more about the image of company in this regard then there father by all reports.

Fox also even though I not sure firing Bill O'Reilly will help in this regard could be facing some real legal issues. Fox is a public traded companies so they have a legal duty to not mislead share holders. They reported the 13 millions they paid out on behalf of Bill O'Reilly to settle law suits against him as compensation to the share holders instead of a settlement. That could very well be found in court to be misleading the share holders.



Hiku said:
betacon said:

Honest question are you a virgin? This far left views of how sexual interaction have to played out, are not reality. This is assuming what he said is fact not just banter between two people.

I'm sure that's as honest of a question as if I were to ask you if you have a criminal record. Because if you grab someone by their genitals before waiting for signals of approval, that's what's going to happen eventually. Sexual assault cases of this nature are very common. If not being a sexual predator is a far left view today, then that may explain a few things.
Reality is that most decent human beings wait for clear signals before they act like that. According to Trump, he doesn't. Some times they won't mind. For the times they do, he has an army of lawyers and lots of money to shut them up. He is in the best possible position to commit these acts and get away with it.

His ex wife wrote in her book that he raped her, he has so many sexual misconduct alegations against him that it warranted its own wikipedia page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations ), he brags about walking into Miss USA contestants while they are naked in the dressing room, and constantly jokes about fucking his own daughter.

But yeah, let's just assume that what he said when he thought no one else was listening was just banter.

He's not talking about going out and touching random people on their groin, there are people which throw them self at people for just being rich/powerful and there's nothign wrong with taking advantage of that, that's what he was joking about. There's a huge difference here even if we were talking about real documented events which we're not(and no, you assuming what happens doesnt count as fact). Doing something and joking about doing something is completely different.

 

So basically you don't like jokes unless they're "pc"



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o_O.Q said:
Soundwave said:

I dunno, maybe using the 10 scale to rate their looks, I don't think I really even do that anymore, it's called growing up. Yeah of course locker room banter is juvenile. But I hear guy talk all the time, I've never heard a guy, even the more obnoxious types brag about doing things to women without their consent. That's just weird and creepy. 

I play in a beer league hockey rec league too, so a "real" sport (lol) and we have beers after the game in the locker room and the whole nine yards, so yeah there's a lot of explicit stuff said from time to time but nothing like that. You're a weird fucking dude if you're going around talking about grabbing women without asking them.

Usually guys are talking about their fantasy football league or NHL players or the NBA or their work/boss/school, occassionally it's relationship/girl/"how'd that date go" type talk or how "number X/Y/Z player on the other team is an asshole". 

 

do you ask for a woman's consent everytime you initiate sexual contact?

Well, you should. Or at least wait until they acknowledge that they want to have sex.



VGPolyglot said:
o_O.Q said:

 

do you ask for a woman's consent everytime you initiate sexual contact?

Well, you should. Or at least wait until they acknowledge that they want to have sex.

Ok, do you ask a woman to kiss everytime you do so?



o_O.Q said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, you should. Or at least wait until they acknowledge that they want to have sex.

Ok, do you ask a woman to kiss everytime you do so?

Well if youve just met her or are not in a releationship with her, then you probably should ask before kissing her...



o_O.Q said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, you should. Or at least wait until they acknowledge that they want to have sex.

Ok, do you ask a woman to kiss everytime you do so?

I'd at least look at them to see if they gesture consent.



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