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Azuren said:
So I was going to watch the video but it's two God damn hours long. So I read the cliff notes, and unsurprisingly there's nothing in there that's racist (xenophobic and conservative, yeah, but no blatant racism).

Anyone care to point to some specific quotes where he's saying outright racist shit so I can see what the SJWs are crying about?

I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't be complaining if British or French people tried to immigrate. It's because of their race that he's opposing them. If you really think that there's nothing racist there, you either don't know what racism is, or you don't want them to be considered racist as that would make it deemed unacceptable.



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BraLoD said:
VGPolyglot said:

And what do whites need to protect themselves from? Blacks and Mexicans? So, promoting interracial conflict is not racism?

Don't ask me, ask him, I have zero to do with his point and how he choose to try to support it.
If you think he is promoting interracial conflict, it's between you and him, not me xP

You're the one saying it's not racist. I want to know how you don't see that as racist.



VGPolyglot said:
Azuren said:
So I was going to watch the video but it's two God damn hours long. So I read the cliff notes, and unsurprisingly there's nothing in there that's racist (xenophobic and conservative, yeah, but no blatant racism).

Anyone care to point to some specific quotes where he's saying outright racist shit so I can see what the SJWs are crying about?

I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't be complaining if British or French people tried to immigrate. It's because of their race that he's opposing them. If you really think that there's nothing racist there, you either don't know what racism is, or you don't want them to be considered racist as that would make it deemed unacceptable.

Okay, so first of all, you're making a pretty strong assumption about the British and French thing. Congratulations on being nonfactual out of the gate.

 

Second, you don't know what I read, and there may well be something racist that happened that wasn't in the cliff notes that I found. That's why I'm asking for clarification and for someone to point out the outright racist stuff. 

 

Third, xenophobia is not racism. It's like I'm talking to children. Just because you don't agree with it and it targets a group of people that are not white in majority doesn't mean it's racist. It would be racist of he said middle easterners, or blacks, or Indians; but as far as I can tell, he didn't.

 

Now, again, if I missed something that actually IS racist, please; point it out to me. 



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BraLoD said:
VGPolyglot said:

You're the one saying it's not racist. I want to know how you don't see that as racist.

How I don't see what is racist? I didn't see him promoting interracial conflict.
If you think what he said lead to that, that's your conclusion on it, not mine, that's why.

If he's in a debate, it means he wants people to believe what he says/agree with his arguments. It's not like he's just saying it and then wants everyone to do nothing about it.



Azuren said:
VGPolyglot said:

I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't be complaining if British or French people tried to immigrate. It's because of their race that he's opposing them. If you really think that there's nothing racist there, you either don't know what racism is, or you don't want them to be considered racist as that would make it deemed unacceptable.

Okay, so first of all, you're making a pretty strong assumption about the British and French thing. Congratulations on being nonfactual out of the gate.

 

Second, you don't know what I read, and there may well be something racist that happened that wasn't in the cliff notes that I found. That's why I'm asking for clarification and for someone to point out the outright racist stuff. 

 

Third, xenophobia is not racism. It's like I'm talking to children. Just because you don't agree with it and it targets a group of people that are not white in majority doesn't mean it's racist. It would be racist of he said middle easterners, or blacks, or Indians; but as far as I can tell, he didn't.

 

Now, again, if I missed something that actually IS racist, please; point it out to me. 

So, trying to insinuate that even the best-off of blacks are more likely to commit crimes than the worst-off of whites is not racist? And let's say that it was xenophobia instead of racism: how is that any moer acceptable? Hating people because of where they were born (which they have no control over) is just as bad as hating people because of the colour of their skin (which they also have no control over).



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Good. Now give me a release date for Switch.



Oh wow, even Destiny is opposed to Playtonic Game's decision and he's the one who debated JonTron.



Normchacho said:
FloatingWaffles said:

I was in the middle of editing my original post before you responded. But it is people like SJW's that have a problem with Jontron having a different view that they deem as 'racist' (Because anyone with a different opinion is called a racist or nazi nowadays by those people) so Playtonic removed him from the game due to fear of SJW backlash.

Sure, as a business they have every right to decide what happens in their own game and if they feel like keeping JonTron in it was going to lose them some sales then they have every right to remove him if they want. But they gave into the whole SJW "Jontron is nazi because of his view on something" narrative that these people are trying to push in doing so out of fear of that backlash. Instead of thinking for themselves that "You know, maybe JonTron isn't actually a nazi or racist like they're trying to say and just had a different view on something" they just immediately fucking gave in to the SJW agenda that they want people to think. 

What does someone have to say in this day and age for people to admit that it's actually racist? The insinuation that America belongs to white people really isn't enough? Believing that black people are just more likely to commit crime, regardless of socioeconomic status isn't enough?

He's been deemed a racist because he is one. It is possible for someone to be a racist without the white hood and burning cross.

Blame those people that overuse the word racist in every single thing where it's not needed nor does it make any sense. Nowadays if you even disagree with someone on something they'll call you a racist or nazi or anything like that.

It doesn't have the same kind of meaning anymore when someone will call someone else racist for any little thing even when it has nothing to do with racism. Which is why when I see a headline of something like "Jontron is racist", i'm more inclined to believe it's just people throwing the word around when it has nothing to do with racism as always to try and make that person look bad, which I don't see how you can deny, just look at anything in today's world and you'll find someone calling someone else racist,sexist,mysoginist, nazi, etc for any reason. People have an agenda, so when they see someone that either says or thinks something they don't like their agenda is to make that person look as horrible as possible and to try and spread that around. Which is why even if they know someone isn't a racist or a nazi or anything they'll still try to say it anyway, either because they are ignorant enough to actualy believe those things or just don't care and will try to paint that false picture to support their narrative anyway. 

It's been happening a shit ton on Youtube lately too, just look at the shit that happened to PewDiePie like a month ago. Those people that made the articles knew that he wasn't actually a fucking nazi or anti-semite, but they still proceeded to try to slander him anyway with that shit because that was their agenda.

Even if JonTron might have said some controversial statements, the amount of people trying to call him racist I would assume are the same people that would have tried to call him that no matter what he said. The mentality of these people that do these things has resorted to "He's either 100% in agreement with us and what we think, if not we paint him as a fucking nazi or racist or something bad like that".



FloatingWaffles said:
Normchacho said:

What does someone have to say in this day and age for people to admit that it's actually racist? The insinuation that America belongs to white people really isn't enough? Believing that black people are just more likely to commit crime, regardless of socioeconomic status isn't enough?

He's been deemed a racist because he is one. It is possible for someone to be a racist without the white hood and burning cross.

Blame those people that overuse the word racist in every single thing where it's not needed nor does it make any sense. Nowadays if you even disagree with someone on something they'll call you a racist or nazi or anything like that.

It doesn't have the same kind of meaning anymore when someone will call someone else racist for any little thing even when it has nothing to do with racism. Which is why when I see a headline of something like "Jontron is racist", i'm more inclined to believe it's just people throwing the word around when it has nothing to do with racism as always to try and make that person look bad, which I don't see how you can deny, just look at anything in today's world and you'll find someone calling someone else racist,sexist,mysoginist, nazi, etc for any reason. People have an agenda, so when they see someone that either says or thinks something they don't like their agenda is to make that person look as horrible as possible and to try and spread that around. Which is why even if they know someone isn't a racist or a nazi or anything they'll still try to say it anyway, either because they are ignorant enough to actualy believe those things or just don't care and will try to paint that false picture to support their narrative anyway. 

It's been happening a shit ton on Youtube lately too, just look at the shit that happened to PewDiePie like a month ago. Those people that made the articles knew that he wasn't actually a fucking nazi or anti-semite, but they still proceeded to try to slander him anyway with that shit because that was their agenda.

Even if JonTron might have said some controversial statements, the amount of people trying to call him racist I would assume are the same people that would have tried to call him that no matter what he said. The mentality of these people that do these things has resorted to "He's either 100% in agreement with us and what we think, if not we paint him as a fucking nazi or racist or something bad like that".

So, your argument is that the word racist is used a lot, so if someone's called a racist that must mean they're not a racist?



Wyrdness said:
FloatingWaffles said:

I was in the middle of editing my original post before you responded. But it is people like SJW's that have a problem with Jontron having a different view that they deem as 'racist' (Because anyone with a different opinion is called a racist or nazi nowadays by those people) so Playtonic removed him from the game due to fear of SJW backlash.

Sure, as a business they have every right to decide what happens in their own game and if they feel like keeping JonTron in it was going to lose them some sales then they have every right to remove him if they want. But they gave into the whole SJW "Jontron is nazi because of his view on something" narrative that these people are trying to push in doing so out of fear of that backlash. Instead of thinking for themselves that "You know, maybe JonTron isn't actually a nazi or racist like they're trying to say and just had a different view on something" they just immediately fucking gave in to the SJW agenda that they want people to think. 

What are you on about? People aren't calling him racist because he has a different view people are calling him racist because what he said was objectively racist this isn't even anything to do with SJW the video is available online and the are quotes that have been linked.

What do you mean what am I on about? Read my comment. It's the same people like SJW's that are always trying to do shit like this.

Just like with the Overwatch butt "controversial" (not controversial at all, just a fucking silly all class pose) pose that these people wanted to get removed from Overwatch, people will try to find anything to get angry about. And now it's that Jontron wanted to have a different view on something, even if that view was controversial perhaps. So they flocked to Playtonic to have him removed from the game.

And what was Playtonic's response? At the first sign of any sort of potential "backlash", (and I say backlash in quotes since the amount of people that wouldn't have bought the game just because he was in it probably isn't very high, just like the people saying they won't buy the game because he was removed probably isn't very high. The game will probably still sell well I imagine), they immediately cowarded out and gave into those requests. 

And sure, Playtonic has every right to do that, it's their game and if they don't like something Jontron said they have every right to remove him. But this isn't what seems like happened, it gives off the look that they gave into SJW requests at the first sign of any backlash rather than think for themselves about it.