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LudicrousSpeed said:
No less stupid than the idea that the direction MS is going is simply to copy Sony. They are equally "stupid" positions to take :)

And PC has outclassed consoles forever. Never stopped us from talking about a consoles power before. Sony touts the Pros power. MS touts Scorpios. Maybe you should send them the memo that PCs are more powerful? Hell maybe they'll stop caring about power altogether.

LOL @ flag waving. Just stating facts. Is Microsoft not making the most powerful console ever right now, a huge leap from their current console? They are. What a bizarre issue to take with such a simple comment. Yes, we all know technology progresses. I bet the PS6 will be way more powerful than the PS3. I bet Horizon Zero Dawn 3 on PS5 will look waaaaaaay better than Horizon 1, so who gives a shit about how 1 looks, eh?

After all the nonsense we saw thread after thread after thread after thread about PS4 vs Xbone 1080/900p stuff does "Scorpio is the most powerful console ever" really bother you that much? Scorpio is the most powerful console ever. Sorry. And yes, I know PlayStation 6 Supreme will slay it. I'm talking about the different approaches the two companies are taking to release and support their mid gen upgrades :)

But you're not stating facts, you're stating opinions and trying to pass them off as facts. And in some cases you're just outright wrong.

LudicrousSpeed said:

lol.... Scorpio was rumored and revealed before the Neo/Pro.

 

Like there for instance. And then you went ahead and insinuated that someone could just as easily say that Sony is copying MS here, and really, that's a pretty hard stretch to make. Like holy shit would someone have to be jumping through hoops.

As for the rest of your post it seems like you don't really have anything meaningful to add except trying to goad me. FYI, if I cared about power I'd just go buy a PC or play on my little brothers which is well equipped for gaming.

Oh and Scorpio isn't the most powerful ever because it's not even a product right now 😂😂😂 it could be sure. But it ain't right now. If you want to apply future tense scenarios to the present though, then Scorpio was never the most powerful (I don't really care though, games are reaching a point in fidelity where visual gains are diminishing)



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I think it is a good option to go with this. Keeping the console as open and accessible as possible is the wisest choice for a console that's already starting to pick its pace.



Can't wait for Scorpio! Or whatever it'll be called lol.



I have my doubts on this, it's clear the PS4 won't be caught in gen 8, I'm expecting Scorpio to be MS' gen 9 platform they'll won't say it now but I have a feeling after it launches we'll get an announcement at some point that Scorpion will get it's own library.



I wonder what the XBox division meant with #The Year Of The Scorpio

No exclusives is an automatic turn off for me. Can anyone picture what could be of the Switch or the PS4 without exclusives?

What makes Microsoft believe that they can pull it off? Unless that new consoles comes out at a very very competitive price, I honestly don't see it taking off any time soon.



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aLkaLiNE said:

You nailed it and even included the source from Shannon Loftis that I was too lazy to look up lol. Either way Chazore probably thought I had more meaning behind that PC comment and took offense to it, but no harm no foul. Just a misunderstanding I think.

I took offense to it?.

 

I just find it odd to say that prhase once and not each time for games that go to another platform, like not just on PC but anywhere else.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

aLkaLiNE said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
No less stupid than the idea that the direction MS is going is simply to copy Sony. They are equally "stupid" positions to take :)

And PC has outclassed consoles forever. Never stopped us from talking about a consoles power before. Sony touts the Pros power. MS touts Scorpios. Maybe you should send them the memo that PCs are more powerful? Hell maybe they'll stop caring about power altogether.

LOL @ flag waving. Just stating facts. Is Microsoft not making the most powerful console ever right now, a huge leap from their current console? They are. What a bizarre issue to take with such a simple comment. Yes, we all know technology progresses. I bet the PS6 will be way more powerful than the PS3. I bet Horizon Zero Dawn 3 on PS5 will look waaaaaaay better than Horizon 1, so who gives a shit about how 1 looks, eh?

After all the nonsense we saw thread after thread after thread after thread about PS4 vs Xbone 1080/900p stuff does "Scorpio is the most powerful console ever" really bother you that much? Scorpio is the most powerful console ever. Sorry. And yes, I know PlayStation 6 Supreme will slay it. I'm talking about the different approaches the two companies are taking to release and support their mid gen upgrades :)

But you're not stating facts, you're stating opinions and trying to pass them off as facts. And in some cases you're just outright wrong.

LudicrousSpeed said:

lol.... Scorpio was rumored and revealed before the Neo/Pro.

 

Like there for instance. And then you went ahead and insinuated that someone could just as easily say that Sony is copying MS here, and really, that's a pretty hard stretch to make. Like holy shit would someone have to be jumping through hoops.

As for the rest of your post it seems like you don't really have anything meaningful to add except trying to goad me. FYI, if I cared about power I'd just go buy a PC or play on my little brothers which is well equipped for gaming.

Oh and Scorpio isn't the most powerful ever because it's not even a product right now 😂😂😂 it could be sure. But it ain't right now. If you want to apply future tense scenarios to the present though, then Scorpio was never the most powerful (I don't really care though, games are reaching a point in fidelity where visual gains are diminishing)

Scorpio was rumored and revealed before the Neo/Pro. It wasn't always called the Scorpio, that didn't really start until early early 2016, but the rumors were there. And of course the reveal was at E3, months before Sony revealed the Pro. Hope that helps.

Your mistake regarding who copied who is apparently you believe I think Sony copied MS. I am merely saying with the complete lack of logic behind saying Scorpio only exists because MS is copying Sony, you could just as easily say the opposite is true. Your comments about how silly it is, just proves my point. Console launches require years of work and millions upon millions of dolllars. You don't launch one just to respond to something that was actually revealed months after yours.

Scorpio is a product. It exists. We know it's coming in 2017 and is the most powerful console ever. The article you linked and made a thread around, confirms all of this. The difference in me saying it's the most powerful console ever and you saying it never was, is my post is based in reality on information we have. Yours is based on lollipops, farts, and make believe. Sure, one day another console will come and it will be more powerful than Scorpio. Who cares? It is irrelevant to what I said. Microsoft is taking their time with Scorpio and giving us a huge upgrade. Different than what Sony did with Pro. And the result is... the most powerful console ever :)

I am glad you don't care about power, but why is that relevant? I don't care about speed in my car, doesn't change what is the fastest car in the world. I'll reply again if you have anything relevant to say. Not going to argue in circles with you about your favorite color or how powerful consoles might be in 30 years lol.



LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft is making the Scorpio because Sony is doing it. Its as simple as that. As soon as they heard about Neo, they announced the Scorpio at E3 because they were embarassed about having a weaker platform to Sony. They were so embarassed, they literally raced to raise the clock speed of the XBox One before launch. Thats primarily what this is about. As time goes on they will find other good reasons, but the timing is right for this sort of thing now because of middle generation iterations before the next generation in cellphones.

lol.... Scorpio was rumored and revealed before the Neo/Pro. You could just as easily say Sony is only doing it because MS is doing it :)

And they are going about it in different ways. MS is taking their time with it and making the most powerful console ever. Sony gave the PS4 a small boost. Per usual your theories regarding MS don't hold much water when looked at logically. If the Scorpio were some reactionary afterthought by MS, rushed out to counter the Pro, then it would be out already.

 

LOL no...the scorpio was not rumored first. When you're watching your competitors moves its easier to create a balanced response and hence the scorpio (which confuses me becuse they are supposed to be workinng on PC/Xbox stuff...but I digress). Microsoft can definitely outpace Sony in hardware an os, so thats the gun they are sticking to. All they had to announce at E3 was that the Scorpio had more TFLOPs after Sonys scorpios launch was coming around the corner and that was all she wrote. 

Think about this. If Microsoft was rumored before the pro, why isnt it out right now? Microsoft is very competitive when it comes to Sony. They know Sony is dominant so they either like to beat them to the punch or be right beside them when a trend starts. They did the same thing in buying a more powerful version of the eyetoy after seeing that Sony made the eyetoy and that Nintendo had knocked wii motion control out of the park. They are like the friend who follows and tries to best Sony at every turn. 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

lol.... Scorpio was rumored and revealed before the Neo/Pro. You could just as easily say Sony is only doing it because MS is doing it :)

And they are going about it in different ways. MS is taking their time with it and making the most powerful console ever. Sony gave the PS4 a small boost. Per usual your theories regarding MS don't hold much water when looked at logically. If the Scorpio were some reactionary afterthought by MS, rushed out to counter the Pro, then it would be out already.

 

LOL no...the scorpio was not rumored first. When you're watching your competitors moves its easier to create a balanced response and hence the scorpio (which confuses me becuse they are supposed to be workinng on PC/Xbox stuff...but I digress)

Think about this. If Microsoft was rumored before the pro, why isnt it out right now? Microsoft is very competitive when it comes to Sony. They know Sony is dominant so they either like to beat them to the punch or be right beside them when a trend starts. They did the same thing in buying a more powerful version of the eyetoy after seeing that Sony made the eyetoy and that Nintendo had knocked wii motion control out of the park. They are like the friend who follows and tries to best Sony at every turn.

Um, since when are the things rumored/revealed earlier, the first to release? Shouldn't we be seeing Shenmue 3 from Sega or Crackdown 3 already then? Scorpio isn't out yet because unlike the Pro, it's a very large upgrade. They're also focusing more on 4K than Sony. And who knows, maybe they have some software to show at or before E3 to show why they are waiting. When you're not changing much, it doesn't take as much time as a very big hardware change.

Its funny, you're making my argument for me with all this crap you spew about Microsoft desperately wanting to follow Sony and you dont even see it :) As if MS can see the Neo reveal and just flip a switch and poop out the most powerful console ever in one year, LOL.This is a waste of time though, you'll always have your zany MS theories. Enjoy the last word.



LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

 

LOL no...the scorpio was not rumored first. When you're watching your competitors moves its easier to create a balanced response and hence the scorpio (which confuses me becuse they are supposed to be workinng on PC/Xbox stuff...but I digress)

Think about this. If Microsoft was rumored before the pro, why isnt it out right now? Microsoft is very competitive when it comes to Sony. They know Sony is dominant so they either like to beat them to the punch or be right beside them when a trend starts. They did the same thing in buying a more powerful version of the eyetoy after seeing that Sony made the eyetoy and that Nintendo had knocked wii motion control out of the park. They are like the friend who follows and tries to best Sony at every turn.

Um, since when are the things rumored/revealed earlier, the first to release? Shouldn't we be seeing Shenmue 3 from Sega or Crackdown 3 already then? Scorpio isn't out yet because unlike the Pro, it's a very large upgrade. They're also focusing more on 4K than Sony. And who knows, maybe they have some software to show at or before E3 to show why they are waiting. When you're not changing much, it doesn't take as much time as a very big hardware change.

Its funny, you're making my argument for me with all this crap you spew about Microsoft desperately wanting to follow Sony and you dont even see it :) As if MS can see the Neo reveal and just flip a switch and poop out the most powerful console ever in one year, LOL.This is a waste of time though, you'll always have your zany MS theories. Enjoy the last word.

Dude...estimate when you first heard about the scorpio. When was this? I will go and find the neo rumors. By the time Microsoft announced scorpio at E3 it was too late for Sony to turn back on the fixed specs they had already set up for the pro. Microsoft had already known the neo was at 4 t flops so they tried to beat them by two tflops. Thats all they had to reveal at E3 about it. Sony