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Is Nintendo too greedy?

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TEAMSWITCHER said:

I would like to see you build a portable/console hybrid gaming device and sell it for less than $300.  What's That?  You can't?  There's a big surprise!  I think I'm gonna have a heart attack and die from that surprise!

I'm getting so tired of all these dumb-ass childish rants from people who have no-fucking-clue how hard it is to bring ANY product to market...much less a product that strived to be something different and new.

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I am really confused by this post. You make a real hard effort to paint Nintendo as some sort of evil company that people need to be saved from, but your points don't really back this up, if at all. It seems more to me you're really just trying to upset Nintendo fans just for the joy of it. : /



 

              

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1. Agree
2. Sorta. I want to see what they can do with a powerful hardware, but you are not telling us why do you want more power.
3. Yes. They are rushing it, but compensating with a more steady stream of games during the year. You can wait until holidays.
4. Thank god they are moving from the Wii U. Focus on Switch solely.
5. False. Edit your false OP.
6. Agree.
7. Gonna wait until E3 before I get mad.
8. I don't care but sucks for those that want one
9. Same as above
10. They are after profits, which is better than your estrategy. Also Wii U is done and soon will be the 3DS.
11. There's no need of another direct as all the info necessary for launch is already covered by them or the press.
12. No. Pro controller is built in great quality, 40hrs of battery, NFC, gyro controls and HD rumble inside. Joy cons are even more complex. Price is justified.
13. 1 2 Switch should have been a pack in game for cheap Wii style marketing purposes. Not to.make the console cheaper.
14. Switch needs an SD card included, not a HDD. Portability seems to be the main factor, even if they deny, over the stationary home console component.



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Captain_Yuri said:

For #5

I guess 5 seconds of googling is too much to ask tho...

Nintendo says no to that as well



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niceguygameplayer said:

1. This is the worst. No power cable for 3DS XL. I can only imagine how many people (especially parents that buy for children) bring home their already highly expensive handheld, just to discover that no power cable comes with it. It is not an optional purchase. It is mandatory for the system to work! Back out to the store to buy the power cord and possibly more gas.  For those parents " Sorry little Johnny, stop crying. I didn't know! Daddy will be back in a half an hour or so with the power cord. Oh wait, the store is about to close. You can just look at it's highly reflective screen until I get home from work tomorrow."

... If this is this the worst... I... this is going to be a bumpy ride isn't it?

2. No powerful hardware for their home consoles. Only gimmicks to excuse making cheap hardware for large cost. They struck it rich with Wii and have been doing it since. Even the GameCube had no DVDCD player, unlike PS2 and Xbox. Well, I'm not sure about Xbox with DVD's, but it could play CD's, I think. Plus Xbox was the most powerful of it's generation and had a hard drive.

How is not having a non-gaming hardware in your video game hardware a gimmick? How is that a reflection of power? How does this even prove your point

3. No good launch lineup for Switch. Nintendo offers one big game that is available for their last generation console as well. 

Ok. That is your opinion along with many others.  Most people can just probably wait until later to buy the system when the library develops. The part I underlined in this complaint is funny because of the part I underlined in the next complaint.

4. No more support for Wii U. After Zelda, I think that is it for big titles. Can you guys name any? I think any big game company like Nintendo, that has billions in the bank, should support their consoles and customers, for at least 5 years. I can understand why Sega abandoned Dreamcast. They were in money trouble. One of Sega's top people had to put his personal funds into Sega to help his company. Nintendo could at least port Super Mario Odyssey to Wii U, since no proper 3D sequel to Super Mario Galaxy was made for Wii U. 

So the funny thing is, you complain about the a good launch game being irrelavent because it is in prev-gen, bbut complain that they should still support prev-gen with current good games? Wasn't one of your previous points complaining about weaker hardware, but you want to complain that Nintendo should support their much weaker non-selling system?  Lol ok.  Aside from that, you want Nintendo to divide support between 3 systems? You realize the delay of Zelda is partly due to the fact that it was developed for two systems right?  

5. I just read on here, in another forum post, no headphone jack for Switch. Is that really true?! If so, I'm almost shocked. "Turn that annoying game sound down! I can't hear the TV, youngun. But daddy, I can't hear what's going on if I turn it down. It's portable son, right? Go outside and play it. B but what about the 2 feet of snow, 20 degrees, strangers and wild pit bulls?"

Thanks Captain Yuri.

6. No Virtual Console at launch. Details later as usual. 

7. No Metroid announced for Switch. How much do fans have to beg? 

In one year Switch is getting a new Mario, Zelda, Splatoon a new IP in ARMS and Xenoblade as well as new Fire Emblem announced for next year. This is before E3. Reggie said after the Switch conference in January, more than once, that come back to him in about year about Metroid. He even brought Metroid up himself in at least one of those interviews.

8. No more preorders for Switch at many locations. Are they creating more demand like was rumored with the original Wii? 

They said months in advance the amount they were shipping in as being cautious about their sales expectations. If you want to chalk it up to artificial demand and are want to be outraged it is not available to buy then go for it... weren't you trying to convince people not to buy from Nintendo again?

9. No to making enough Nes Minis to meet demand. The same question as in #8. 

There is a perfectly reasonable and sensible explanation that I will not say here because I intended to make a thread on it. I just keep putting it off.

10. No price cuts for 3DS or Wii U in a long time. Maybe if Nintendo had not been so greedy with Wii U, it might have sold a lot more and made their money back with game sales along with the Wii U purchases like MS and Sony has done. 

Wii U price drop would have been great to do. For 3DS, they gave people cheaper options.

11. No Nintendo Direct for Switch. Even though I own no Nintendo systems, even I enjoy Nintendo Directs. I think many ppl do. Ever since Iwata passed, there have been very few. I miss Iwata BTW. I did not agree with many of his business decisions, but the guy was likable. 

.... what?

...

Ok so this one... What? The literally had a private conference for the Switch, and 2 days of treehouse gameplay. And so what if  you enjoy the  directs? Clearly, it doesn't entice you to buy their stuff, so why should they appeal to your particular need of a direct when you know full well your not gonna buy it? Did you think through what you typed? I mean what is this is this I am reading?

12. No decent prices. The pro controller and Joycons are priced out of the range of many people. The price of the Switch, a pro controller, an extra Joycon set for just on extra player, and a game... (Passes out.)

Give a single joycon to another player. Boom 2 controllers. Share the joy.

13. No pack in game! Next to having no power cord for 3DS XL, this is the worst. 1, 2 Switch would have been an ideal pack in from what I've read. A game to showcase what the Switch can do. No pack in game makes little sense even for Nintendo. That will bar some from even buying a Switch. Those that are poor will have little incentive to buy the switch when the $300 price tag is already high. Sony and MS offer more powerful consoles with a game at the same price.

What people seem to forget is that those two have had their consoles out in the market with no apparent difficult hardware to deal with. Essentially over time their products are going to be easier to lower in price because the prices of the parts are cheaper too. Don't forget that at launch, the PS4 was 400 and the Xone was 500 dollars. The Switch is starting off at 300.

14. No hard drive for Switch. Want to download Dragon Quest Heroes 1 and 2. Well too bad! It is a 32 gigabyte download. The same as the switch internal memory. Of course that internal memory won't be all free. Some will be used for the system. Even if it was all free, there would not be any space to save a game. I understand it's part portable, but couldn't they have gotten it up to 128 gigs? A lot can be stored on a tiny card now. Greedy again, Nintendo. I guess you can add the possible cost for an SD card to #12... (passes out again.) 

You mean... like a cartridge right? Like they form factor that Dragon Quest Heroes comes in physically right? The one that won't take up any space? So I have the option of going to the store and paying for the game or paying for the game then going to the store and paying extra for space?

Well, I think that should be enough points to convince anyone but the most diehard Nintendo fans about the greed and disappointment of Nintendo. I could go all the way back to the NES days and point out greedy practices against 3rd parties as well as other things, but it would take too long for me. The Nintendo seal of quality has indeed been broken, in my opinion. Sony and Microsoft have better in store for your gaming dollars guys. Think about it. 

 

This was hilarious because some of your points grossly contradicted each other, at least two of them made no sense, and at least on of your points was so under researched, a picture destroyed it.  I'm being overly generous by saying maybe four of your points have some point to it. To summerize what I read:

[You have no intention of offending anyone with your complaints and they are poorly thought out and unresearched... but if anyone disagrees they are presumed to be an extreme diehard Nintendo fan.]

I always love the defense for making irrational comments is simply suggesting that whoever disagrees is being irrational to avoid earnest criticism.

OK! My first reply today as I said. I really don't like replying that much on my posts, to be honest. I just like to say what I want to say and let others converse on the matter. However, I think this subject is important in fighting greed. So, I am stepping it up this time! I am giving one more round of replies. 

1. No power cord is a slap in the face to any customer. It is almost evil. Many agree with me. 

2. The gimmick is the motion controls. Most core gamers want regular controls. This is to appeal to casuals. DVD's were no gimmick. They were practical and a viable entertainment medium that could be used by casuals and core alike. 

3 and 4. I feel that Switch should have been held off for a year. Better support for Wii U and a price cut could have pushed it to a decent 20 to 25 million userbase. Being fair to their Wii U  customers by giving them a true Mario Galaxy sequel and even a 2D Metroid is an afterthought. 

7. Another year? Metroid fans have been asking after Other M for years. Other M was not even made by Nintendo in house, but by Team Ninja. That was wrong and changed the personality of Samus. I am a Metroid fan myself. I have played 4 of them. I want a new one too. 

8. It's because of this possible fake demand that makes me want to convince others not to buy it. Even if there is no fake demand, which is quite possible, they are a multi billion company, that can afford to mass produce more just in case of huge demand. Even if Switch flopped, they would eventually sell the units and they have billions of dollars to compensate for any loss. I can only think of investors being unhappy. I feel that that is too weak of an excuse though.

9. I understand. I look forward to reading it.

10. 2DS is at a much nicer price, however, it has small screens--which can cause eye strain--, is much uglier IMO, can't fold to protect the screen, and lacks the important 3D capability. I feel that a price cut to $150 for 3DS XL would still earn them profit on mostly aging technology. Even 169 would be a nice gesture. 

11. Actually, the Directs made me want to get a Wii U. I still plan to get one, mainly for Virtual Console, and it's Wii compatibility. There are a few Nintendo brands that I like, too.  Waiting for the price cut that never came was a waste of time. Sadly, I know my purchase will lack support for the most part, now. I will buy used for this lack of respect for millions of Wii U purchasers. 

12. But many games will require the whole Joycon set to play a game. Only certain games will only require one. Each part has different features.

13. I understand what you are saying here, but Switch is using weaker hardware. If it is not even as powerful as Xbox One, has no Blu-Ray drive (ultra HD or full HD), and has no hard drive, then how can they justify the cost with no pack in game?

14. OK, this is not the 1900s. Digital downloads have become a norm. If you live in a remote area, physical may be a tough option. Plus digital has no taxes and saves money. If there is a 50% off deal online, you will miss out. 

Okay. I'm not assuming you are a blind diehard. I don't know you, so that wouldn't be fair. I try hard to be fair. I mostly went on memory over research. As for the headphone jack, I questioned it myself. I read another user saying something about no headphone jack, and just mentioned it as a possible point. 

I concede to being partially wrong and not doing proper resesrch. I didn't know the Wii U controller was so expensive, for example. However, I think they could have cut the price after 2 or 3 years to $250, as costs generally go down for parts over time. That would have given them a competitive edge. 

So, overall, I think I was more right than wrong, and the poll agrees. Maybe Nintendo will be wise and do a $50 price cut and pack in a game after 6 months, but as it stands, I feel they are being too greedy. They also badly need to cut that pro controller price. We will see if I am wrong about their future decision making though. I will admit any wrongs if I am  wrong. Thanks for commenting! 

 

 



Cloudman said:
I am really confused by this post. You make a real hard effort to paint Nintendo as some sort of evil company that people need to be saved from, but your points don't really back this up, if at all. It seems more to me you're really just trying to upset Nintendo fans just for the joy of it. : /

No way. I am not a troll. 



m_csquare said:
TEAMSWITCHER said:

I would like to see you build a portable/console hybrid gaming device and sell it for less than $300.  What's That?  You can't?  There's a big surprise!  I think I'm gonna have a heart attack and die from that surprise!

I'm getting so tired of all these dumb-ass childish rants from people who have no-fucking-clue how hard it is to bring ANY product to market...much less a product that strived to be something different and new.

https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-SHIELD-K1-Tablet-Black/dp/B0171BS9CG

 

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Nicely done, I think.



Platina said:
Captain_Yuri said:

For #5

I guess 5 seconds of googling is too much to ask tho...

Nintendo says no to that as well

Lol, I should have looked that up first. Sorry.



niceguygameplayer said:
Cloudman said:
I am really confused by this post. You make a real hard effort to paint Nintendo as some sort of evil company that people need to be saved from, but your points don't really back this up, if at all. It seems more to me you're really just trying to upset Nintendo fans just for the joy of it. : /

No way. I am not a troll. 

Out of the 2 options that can carry you to make a threads like this, being a troll is actually the best one. Otherways the little thought you put to this is concerning. Sometimes we don't see the part of ourselves that we don't want to be/see, unlike Rol I'm inclined to believe this is actually a rant and you are kind of trolling even if you don't want to think so.