m_csquare said:
Except ps2 dvd is also a functional movie dvd player. 4k uhd bluray player on xbox1s is also a "gimmick", but look at how that extra function wins the battle between xbox1s and ps4 slim. |
Yes, they're all gimmicks.








Is Nintendo too greedy? | |||
| Of course! | 121 | 42.16% | |
| No way! | 69 | 24.04% | |
| A little. | 66 | 23.00% | |
| See results. | 31 | 10.80% | |
| Total: | 287 | ||
m_csquare said:
Except ps2 dvd is also a functional movie dvd player. 4k uhd bluray player on xbox1s is also a "gimmick", but look at how that extra function wins the battle between xbox1s and ps4 slim. |
Yes, they're all gimmicks.








mysteryman said:
Yes, they're all gimmicks. |
I find it funny how people don't consider non-gaming features to be gimmicks but things like touch screens, motion controls or portability are gimmicks.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
mysteryman said:
Yes, they're all gimmicks. |
is it still a gimmick if your whole gaming library use it? Cmon it's not difficult to understand what ppl are trying to say. Things like 3d and Wii rumble are gimmick because very few of the gaming library actually utilize it.
m_csquare said:
is it still a gimmick if your whole gaming library use it? Cmon it's not difficult to understand what ppl are trying to say. Things like 3d and Wii rumble are gimmick because very few of the gaming library actually utilize it. |
Yes, they're all gimmicks.








If only you opened your eyes and took a look around in the world. None of these points are especially hard-hitting, at all.
Nintendo is not a religion, no one is forcing anyone to do anything. You're statements are ridiculous.

mysteryman said:
Yes, they're all gimmicks. |
I approve this response
You can do this for Sony and Microsoft too:
No The Last Guardian for ps3 despite several announcements for it on the ps3, no external HDD support for ps4 until very recently, no backwards compatibility for ps4 (the company that played its part in pioneering that aspect of gaming now shuns it), no external assets for Bethesda mods on ps4, no free online, no scalebound, no easy refunds for that digital No Man's Sky purchase for ps4 despite the crashing problems the game had (and may still have), no 4k blu-ray playback for ps4 pro, no portability for ps4 and x1, no up-to-date hardware on ps4 pro: the tech inside is old by PC gaming standards, no more support for Vita, no more support for ps3 and 360 despite adoption numbers being greater than ps4 and x1, no way to turn off the light on the back of the dualshock 4.
Going back to points raised, some I agree with. Others, not so much:
| niceguygameplayer said: 3. No good launch lineup for Switch. |
Opinion.
| niceguygameplayer said: Nintendo offers one big game that is available for their last generation console as well. |
I'm glad that BotW is also on WiiU. I was very worried that it wouldn't be after years of promoting it on the WiiU.
Would have been a very shitty move if it didn't come to WiiU.
| niceguygameplayer said: 4. No more support for Wii U. After Zelda, I think that is it for big titles. Can you guys name any? I think any big game company like Nintendo, that has billions in the bank, should support their consoles and customers, for at least 5 years. I can understand why Sega abandoned Dreamcast. They were in money trouble. One of Sega's top people had to put his personal funds into Sega to help his company. Nintendo could at least port Super Mario Odyssey to Wii U, since no proper 3D sequel to Super Mario Galaxy was made for Wii U. |
And no more support for ps3, Vita, and 360. SMO on WiiU would be stellar though.
| niceguygameplayer said: 8. No more preorders for Switch at many locations. Are they creating more demand like was rumored with the original Wii? |
Maybe pre-orders are sold out?
| niceguygameplayer said: 9. No to making enough Nes Minis to meet demand. The same question as in #8. |
Did Nintendo announce a stop to production of the Mini? This is news to me!
| niceguygameplayer said: Well, I think that should be enough points to convince anyone but the most diehard Nintendo fans about the greed and disappointment of Nintendo. I could go all the way back to the NES days and point out greedy practices against 3rd parties |
You could but that would be old news. NES released about 30 years go. Switch-era Nintendo seems to be on good terms with third parties.
| niceguygameplayer said: as well as other things, but it would take too long for me. The Nintendo seal of quality has indeed been broken, in my opinion. Sony and Microsoft have better in store for your gaming dollars guys. Think about it. |
And from what I've been gathering, PC gaming is the best place to play: free online, modding freedom, nearly endless amounts of functionality... CHOICE!
You can do this for Sony and Microsoft too:
No The Last Guardian for ps3 despite several announcements for it on the ps3, no external HDD support for ps4 until very recently, no backwards compatibility for ps4 (the company that played its part in pioneering that aspect of gaming now shuns it), no external assets for Bethesda mods on ps4, no free online, no scalebound, no easy refunds for that digital No Man's Sky purchase for ps4 despite the crashing problems the game had (and may still have), no 4k blu-ray playback for ps4 pro, no portability for ps4 and x1, no up-to-date hardware on ps4 pro: the tech inside is old by PC gaming standards, no more support for Vita, no more support for ps3 and 360 despite adoption numbers being greater than ps4 and x1, no way to turn off the light on the back of the dualshock 4.
Going back to points raised, some I agree with. Others, not so much:
| niceguygameplayer said: 3. No good launch lineup for Switch. |
Opinion.
| niceguygameplayer said: Nintendo offers one big game that is available for their last generation console as well. |
I'm glad that BotW is also on WiiU. I was very worried that it wouldn't be after years of promoting it on the WiiU.
Would have been a very shitty move if it didn't come to WiiU.
| niceguygameplayer said: 4. No more support for Wii U. After Zelda, I think that is it for big titles. Can you guys name any? I think any big game company like Nintendo, that has billions in the bank, should support their consoles and customers, for at least 5 years. I can understand why Sega abandoned Dreamcast. They were in money trouble. One of Sega's top people had to put his personal funds into Sega to help his company. Nintendo could at least port Super Mario Odyssey to Wii U, since no proper 3D sequel to Super Mario Galaxy was made for Wii U. |
And no more support for ps3, Vita, and 360. SMO on WiiU would be stellar though.
| niceguygameplayer said: 8. No more preorders for Switch at many locations. Are they creating more demand like was rumored with the original Wii? |
Maybe pre-orders are sold out?
| niceguygameplayer said: 9. No to making enough Nes Minis to meet demand. The same question as in #8. |
Did Nintendo announce a stop to production of the Mini? This is news to me!
| niceguygameplayer said: Well, I think that should be enough points to convince anyone but the most diehard Nintendo fans about the greed and disappointment of Nintendo. I could go all the way back to the NES days and point out greedy practices against 3rd parties |
You could but that would be old news. NES released about 30 years go. Switch-era Nintendo seems to be on good terms with third parties.
| niceguygameplayer said: as well as other things, but it would take too long for me. The Nintendo seal of quality has indeed been broken, in my opinion. Sony and Microsoft have better in store for your gaming dollars guys. Think about it. |
And from what I've been gathering, PC gaming is the best place to play: free online, modding freedom, nearly endless amounts of functionality... CHOICE!
You can do this for Sony and Microsoft too:
No The Last Guardian for ps3 despite several announcements for it on the ps3, no external HDD support for ps4 until very recently, no backwards compatibility for ps4 (the company that played its part in pioneering that aspect of gaming now shuns it), no external assets for Bethesda mods on ps4, no free online, no scalebound, no easy refunds for that digital No Man's Sky purchase for ps4 despite the crashing problems the game had (and may still have), no 4k blu-ray playback for ps4 pro, no portability for ps4 and x1, no up-to-date hardware on ps4 pro: the tech inside is old by PC gaming standards, no more support for Vita, no more support for ps3 and 360 despite adoption numbers being greater than ps4 and x1, no way to turn off the light on the back of the dualshock 4.
Going back to points raised, some I agree with. Others, not so much:
| niceguygameplayer said: 3. No good launch lineup for Switch. |
Opinion.
| niceguygameplayer said: Nintendo offers one big game that is available for their last generation console as well. |
I'm glad that BotW is also on WiiU. I was very worried that it wouldn't be after years of promoting it on the WiiU.
Would have been a very shitty move if it didn't come to WiiU.
| niceguygameplayer said: 4. No more support for Wii U. After Zelda, I think that is it for big titles. Can you guys name any? I think any big game company like Nintendo, that has billions in the bank, should support their consoles and customers, for at least 5 years. I can understand why Sega abandoned Dreamcast. They were in money trouble. One of Sega's top people had to put his personal funds into Sega to help his company. Nintendo could at least port Super Mario Odyssey to Wii U, since no proper 3D sequel to Super Mario Galaxy was made for Wii U. |
And no more support for ps3, Vita, and 360. SMO on WiiU would be stellar though.
| niceguygameplayer said: 8. No more preorders for Switch at many locations. Are they creating more demand like was rumored with the original Wii? |
Maybe pre-orders are sold out?
| niceguygameplayer said: 9. No to making enough Nes Minis to meet demand. The same question as in #8. |
Did Nintendo announce a stop to production of the Mini? This is news to me!
| niceguygameplayer said: Well, I think that should be enough points to convince anyone but the most diehard Nintendo fans about the greed and disappointment of Nintendo. I could go all the way back to the NES days and point out greedy practices against 3rd parties |
You could but that would be old news. NES released about 30 years go. Switch-era Nintendo seems to be on good terms with third parties.
| niceguygameplayer said: as well as other things, but it would take too long for me. The Nintendo seal of quality has indeed been broken, in my opinion. Sony and Microsoft have better in store for your gaming dollars guys. Think about it. |
And from what I've been gathering, PC gaming is the best place to play: free online, modding freedom, nearly endless amounts of functionality... CHOICE!
I would like to see you build a portable/console hybrid gaming device and sell it for less than $300. What's That? You can't? There's a big surprise! I think I'm gonna have a heart attack and die from that surprise!
I'm getting so tired of all these dumb-ass childish rants from people who have no-fucking-clue how hard it is to bring ANY product to market...much less a product that strived to be something different and new.
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