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barneystinson69 on 21 February 2017
Slimebeast said:
Goatseye said:

Are you talking about the same guy that edited the Swedish police interview out of context to serve his rethoric? Is that the guy?

The same guy who couldn't get statistics to work for him while promoting his "fake" documentary?

The Swedish cops use code words as "gang related violence" or "suburb crime" when in practice they're refering to violence that is to +90% commited by people with immigrant background. But in Sweden all hell breaks lose if a cop blames immigrants.

You need to understand that the Swedish mentality is very mild and humble, very un-confrontational. These two policemen in Horowitz interview simply got scared of the worldwide media attention and the severe consequences they get if they imply that they agree with image portrayed in the TV program.

It was not a fake documentary by Horowitz that was shown on Fox. Everything they said is correct (except that they mixed up the year 2015 with 2016 when it came to the 160,000 refugees in one year).

In fact, the rebuttal to the documentary by our biggest tabloid Aftonbladet somebody linked to, their rebuttal was completely fake!

This is a farse. Sweden is a mess. You need to understand Sweden and Swedish mentality to get it.

Trump was entirely right. Sweden as a collective is now going all out in damage control to hide the truth about our imported problems.

Same with Germany. No idea why they can't admit that many of these so called "refugees" don't plan on assimilating to western society. You want another interesting statistic? Half of those 160k are being asked to leave because many of them aren't even eligible. I wonder how well that'll work? Like I said, most self-hating people in the world.



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Aura7541 on 21 February 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

You might want to bring up per capita stats instead of pointing at one person...

He generalized the entire races, saying that "they" (as in Chinese immigrants) don't commit violent crimes. I showed him someone, which made his statement false.

You know what he meant, but you intentionally interpreted his comment literally. Also, someone is singular, not plural.



irstupid on 21 February 2017

Can people arguing please post where they are from quick.
I'm curious to see the people arguing which points and where they are from.

I'm from America btw.



VGPolyglot on 21 February 2017
Aura7541 said:
VGPolyglot said:

He generalized the entire races, saying that "they" (as in Chinese immigrants) don't commit violent crimes. I showed him someone, which made his statement false.

You know what he meant, but you intentionally interpreted his comment literally. Also, someone is singular, not plural.

He's not Korean, but he's from East Asia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting



Slimebeast on 21 February 2017
Normchacho said:
Slimebeast said:

"came to the conclusion that refugees were responsible for only 1 per cent of all incidents."
But what's the definition of a refugee in that context?
1% of all crimes were commited by newly arrived asylum seeker, people who hardly aren't even registered in the country yet. It's totally ignoring the other 1.5 million refugees here that came in the last three decades and their offspring. If those were counted you'd get 50% or so.

Okay I found a source in English:

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2016/08/21/sweden-migrants-responsible-for-95-of-all-crimes-overrepresented-by-430/

Which are based on official statistics from 2005, mind you that they're extrapolated into reflecting the population makeup in 2015.

Your source doesn't have any data newer than 2001 and fails to look into the connection between crime and enonomic situation. How does crime representation compare between immigrants and native born Swedes in the same economic situation?

And it doesn't pretend it does! It only presents the statistical relationship between ethnic background and crime, with the conclusion that when it comes to violent crime in Sweden, people with foreign background are overrepresented by a factor of 5-10 (depending on the type of crime).

(Okay, it was in 2001. Our government put a hault to all statistics gathering about the subject in 2005 due to political reasons. I'm not 100% sure about the dates, but I think the crime data was gathered in 2001, but presented in the last official report in 2005)

Further analysis about possible explanations (such as the impact of age, sex, social and economical status, cultural background, ethnic background etc) for the huge discrepancy is another issue. Extremely important obviously, but it all starts with establishing that there exists a discrepancy, because this discrepancy is severly downplayed to the public here in Sweden.



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VGPolyglot on 21 February 2017
irstupid said:
Can people arguing please post where they are from quick.
I'm curious to see the people arguing which points and where they are from.

I'm from America btw.

I'm an Earthling, much like the people in question.



Normchacho on 21 February 2017
Slimebeast said:
VGPolyglot said:

That's because the East Asians that came were much better off than the Middle Eastern immigrants. It's the same thing in the United States: the blacks were forced into slavery and thus were poorer than whites, while a limit on immigration from non-white countries until around the 1960s ensured that generally  educated and well-off Asians would be allowed to immigrate, yet many people completely ignore this or are unaware of it and try to compare blacks unforabourably to Asians.

Nope.

We're talking about groups who both came into the country with zero pennies in their pockets and no education. Still the x10 times discrepancy.

It doesn't matter very much which class of society the Chinese immigrants come from, they still don't commit violent crime in Western countrues.

OMG, why is it so hard to admit that a society's or a people's culture and values affect aggression and criminal behaviour?

Because economic standing is far and away the largest factor that plays into crime rates. There is little hard evidence to suggest that culture has any significant effect on crime outside of the fact that people of certain cultures/ethnicities tend to be worse off economically.



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irstupid on 21 February 2017
VGPolyglot said:
irstupid said:
Can people arguing please post where they are from quick.
I'm curious to see the people arguing which points and where they are from.

I'm from America btw.

I'm an Earthling, much like the people in question.

Realized I can look in profiles. Was just curious. 

Noticing that there are a ton of people arguing against a person from Sweeden about what is true or not in Sweeden.



Slimebeast on 21 February 2017
monocle_layton said:
Slimebeast said:

Nope.

We're talking about groups who both came into the country with zero pennies in their pockets and no education. Still the x10 times discrepancy.

It doesn't matter very much which class of society the Chinese immigrants come from, they still don't commit violent crime in Western countrues.

OMG, why is it so hard to admit that a society's or a people's culture and values affect aggression and criminal behaviour?

Perhaps it is because you are generalizing an entire group of people?

lol by definition you have to generalize.

Come back when you have even an elementary understanding of statistics and population study.



Aura7541 on 21 February 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

You know what he meant, but you intentionally interpreted his comment literally. Also, someone is singular, not plural.

He's not Korean, but he's from East Asia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting

So now you have finally fulfilled your literal interpretation, how about per capita stats?