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Bandorr said:
I can see a whole thread of people that haven't played Tales of Berseria.

Infact this really could just be a generic thread.
"X is bad". "X hasn't been good in a long time". "why doesn't X go back to what it was before".

People really do get stuck in the past don't they.

Im not a "things should be like the classic version of the series" person. I am all for evolution/radicalism. You have to ask yourself "why havent they played Berseria?", Maybe Tales has been underwhelming for soo loong that's its just instinct to think they're going to suck? 

I'm tired of cookie cutter characters

 Im tired of cheesy bad to bad antagonist 

Im tired of Saturday morning Anime writing

Im tired of feeling like Tales delivers the same experience but just with a new coat 

I want Tales to do something radical and extreme.



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Xxain said:
Bandorr said:
I can see a whole thread of people that haven't played Tales of Berseria.

Infact this really could just be a generic thread.
"X is bad". "X hasn't been good in a long time". "why doesn't X go back to what it was before".

People really do get stuck in the past don't they.

Im not a "things should be like the classic version of the series" person. I am all for evolution/radicalism. You have to ask yourself "why havent they played Berseria?", Maybe Tales has been underwhelming for soo loong that's its just instinct to think they're going to suck? 

I'm tired of cookie cutter characters

 Im tired of cheesy bad to bad antagonist 

Im tired of Saturday morning Anime writing

Im tired of feeling like Tales delivers the same experience but just with a new coat 

I want Tales to do something radical and extreme.

Your list further proves you have no idea even what Berseria is like at all.

It basically broke from every mold of the tales series, sans the whole you end up saving the entire world trope that all JRPG's do.



Xxain said:
reception of the Tales has been dropping since Xillia 2 and following that whole death threat to a VA thing, he picked a good time to leave..

Well, Tales of Berseria is good. 

 



irstupid said:
Xxain said:

Im not a "things should be like the classic version of the series" person. I am all for evolution/radicalism. You have to ask yourself "why havent they played Berseria?", Maybe Tales has been underwhelming for soo loong that's its just instinct to think they're going to suck? 

I'm tired of cookie cutter characters

 Im tired of cheesy bad to bad antagonist 

Im tired of Saturday morning Anime writing

Im tired of feeling like Tales delivers the same experience but just with a new coat 

I want Tales to do something radical and extreme.

Your list further proves you have no idea even what Berseria is like at all.

It basically broke from every mold of the tales series, sans the whole you end up saving the entire world trope that all JRPG's do.

Its like you dont read, you dont comprehend. Your right, I have dont know what Berseria is like, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T PLAYED IT!! This is not about Berseria or a single game, but Hideo Baba's lasting negative impact on the series which you echoed in your previous post.  



Xxain said:
Nem said:
Runs "Tales of" to the ground... gets a new studio. Oh world...

Seriously, Tales used to be a series I looked forward too. I haven't been interested in Tales since the 6th gen. I took a look at how long he's helmed the series and what do you know... He took helm starting with Symphonia 2, one of the very first Tales games of 7th gen 

I was into Tales like you were Star Ocean, now I don't pick up the game until they are discounted and they are discounted rather quickly, it isn't like the past where games become rare. Tales of Graces F itself I couldn't even finish, Xillia just when I thought the game openned up it ended, and Zesteria was better than the previous but still had the negatives of the franchise. 

I do have bit of hope, but I don't end up spending $60 on hope anymore. 



 

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Nem said:
Xxain said:

Seriously, Tales used to be a series I looked forward too. I haven't been interested in Tales since the 6th gen. I took a look at how long he's helmed the series and what do you know... He took helm starting with Symphonia 2, one of the very first Tales games of 7th gen 

Yeah, tales hasn't been great since. Fingers crossed that whoever stays in the helm at Namco makes a better job.

My hint to them is: Stick to the combat system that made the series great (symphonia/abyss/vesperia).

Eh symphonia combat blows, I only played it recently mind you but it was unresponsive and dull. I haven't played the other two you mentioned, I do own them but haven't gotten around to playing them. I've watched my GF play lots of Berseria and tbh it looks pretty good compared to Zesteria. I think the main thing they need to do is get a new engine, make the enviroments less bland and tone down of the talking cutscences. 



Bandorr said:
Xxain said:

Im not a "things should be like the classic version of the series" person. I am all for evolution/radicalism. You have to ask yourself "why havent they played Berseria?", Maybe X has been underwhelming for soo loong that's its just instinct to think they're going to suck? 

I'm tired of cookie cutter characters

 Im tired of cheesy bad to bad antagonist 

Im tired of Saturday morning Anime writing

Im tired of feeling like X delivers the same experience but just with a new coat 

I want X to do something radical and extreme.

Fixed that for you. If you think something sucks before reading about something, before looking into it, before playing it - that is on you.

You are assuming without any information - well you know what they say..

Funny thing though is that Final Fantasy catches shit for being too different. How dare they stop making FF6 over, and over, and over again.

That list is based on my "played" experience with the series, not the games I haven't played. I've been playing the series since PS1, with last Tales being Graces. I dont even understand the rest of your post. Its reads like a bi polar episode. 

I forgot to add

Im tired or whos the traitor 

Im tired of the loli character uugh so tired.

Amazing if Berseria is great but why's it take Baba soooo long to have a great one? 



Bandorr said:
I can see a whole thread of people that haven't played Tales of Berseria.

Infact this really could just be a generic thread.
"X is bad". "X hasn't been good in a long time". "why doesn't X go back to what it was before".

People really do get stuck in the past don't they.

I haven't played Berseria, though I've sat and watched my GF play it for a few hours. The premise seems alot darker than previous titles.



Bandorr said:
Xxain said:

Its like you dont read, you dont comprehend. Your right, I have dont know what Berseria is like, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T PLAYED IT!! This is not about Berseria or a single game, but Hideo Baba's lasting negative impact on the series which you echoed in your previous post.  

So you are tired of things.. that you don't know are in the latest tales game or not?

You know nothing about the game, yet you seem already annoyed at the game?

Not to mention my original point - You are generic. "I'm tired of X" is very, very generic. Why are you tired of X? What about it is bad? what is good? How would you change it? in what instances.

The fact comments like "I wish they went back to this game" could be applied TO EVERY GAME SERIES is proof of the generic comments.

You are "tired" of stuff you haven't played in what sounds like a long time. How can you claim things haven't change.. if you haven't tried them?

"I'm tired of X." Where X is any restaurant, store, or movie theater.

"When is the last time you went?"

"5 years ago"

"..."

.......... 

1. Im not annoyed at Berseria, if Berseria is great, than cool...but unfortunately I lost the series because it too long for the great one. Im annoyed at how stagnant and by the books Baba kept the series. Berseria mixing things, if true, came too late. I'll look into into it though. Theres already loli character though... Ugh.

2. I dont want Tales to go back, but finally have a radical change. 

3.Graces is not that far away, and reception to Xillia/Xillia 2 and Zesteria does not sing any tunes of greatness 



Xxain said:
reception of the Tales has been dropping since Xillia 2 and following that whole death threat to a VA thing, he picked a good time to leave..

Apparently Berseria is best Tales game since Vesperia!!

But I agreez, should take a break from the IP for a while and return back on the PS5 with an all new engine and next gen graphics, like how Vesperia amazed.