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Miyamotoo on 03 February 2017
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

One game cant harm Switchs image and presented like "gimmicky and lame" espacily when we know that actualy key title for Switch is Zelda BotW and thats game that Nintendo is pushing hardest.

1, 2, Switch is just one game and its aiming at more casuals and ex Wii owners crowd.

It's being pushed as one of the system's major titles. That's a problem when it's the kind of game that pushes away core gamers. Aiming at the casuals is futile; it's not 2006 anymore, they can already get throwaway minigame fluff like this for free on their smartphone.

Zelda BotW is pushed much harder than 1, 2, Switch, even Super Bowl comercial is showing Zelda, and Zelda definitely is not casual game. They curently marketing Zelda (Zelda far hardest), 1, 2, Switch, Mario Kart Deluxe, ARMS and Splatoon 2, so 1, 2, Switch is just one game, so if they were pushing just 1, 2, Switch I would understand your concern, but here thats not the case here, 1, 2, Switch is just one of the games and not even game thats pushed hardest.



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Nuvendil on 03 February 2017
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

One game cant harm Switchs image and presented like "gimmicky and lame" espacily when we know that actualy key title for Switch is Zelda BotW and thats game that Nintendo is pushing hardest.

1, 2, Switch is just one game and its aiming at more casuals and ex Wii owners crowd.

It's being pushed as one of the system's major titles. That's a problem when it's the kind of game that pushes away core gamers. Aiming at the casuals is futile; it's not 2006 anymore, they can already get throwaway minigame fluff like this for free on their smartphone.

I wouldn't go that far.  It is being pushed as *A* title, not a "major" title :P.  

Companies will try to sell what they have on some level.  

It's not 1, 2, Switch that's going to be shown during the Superbowl, it's Zelda.  



Entropio on 03 February 2017
DanneSandin said:
Seems like Nintendo is on a roll as far as commercials is concerned. Good to see! Seems like they've learned a lot from the Wii U.

Does anyone know if this is produced by Nintendo Japan or NoA? I'm guessing NoA, and that probably goes for their reveal trailer back in October as well.

I suppose that they have hired an advertising agency to produce the ad. 



Goodnightmoon on 03 February 2017
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

One game cant harm Switchs image and presented like "gimmicky and lame" espacily when we know that actualy key title for Switch is Zelda BotW and thats game that Nintendo is pushing hardest.

1, 2, Switch is just one game and its aiming at more casuals and ex Wii owners crowd.

It's being pushed as one of the system's major titles. That's a problem when it's the kind of game that pushes away core gamers. Aiming at the casuals is futile; it's not 2006 anymore, they can already get throwaway minigame fluff like this for free on their smartphone.

Don't be that dense, harcore gamers will see Zelda, casual players will see 1,2 Switch, is really that simple, if there is no market for those kind of players anymore, then 1,2 Switch will fail, that's it. It doesn't really hurt the image of anything, forum dwellers opinions shouldn't have so much weight in your conclusions, like the fact that nobody cares for motion control and party games, are you really sure of that? Because we could be quite surprised with the reception.



curl-6 on 03 February 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
curl-6 said:

It's being pushed as one of the system's major titles. That's a problem when it's the kind of game that pushes away core gamers. Aiming at the casuals is futile; it's not 2006 anymore, they can already get throwaway minigame fluff like this for free on their smartphone.

Don't be that dense, harcore gamers will see Zelda, casual players will see 1,2 Switch, is really that simple, if there is no market for those kind of players anymore, then 1,2 Switch will fail, that's it. It doesn't really hurt the image of anything, forum dwellers opinions shouldn't have so much weight in your conclusions, like the fact that nobody cares for motion control and party games, are you really sure of that? Because we could be quite surprised with the reception.

This kind of stuff had some appeal through its novelty back in the day, but its no longer novel like it was back then. Simple minigames of this sort can be downloaded for free or a paltry 99 cents on the app store these days. That's where the Wii Sports crowd are these days, it makes no sense for them to pay $300 on a Switch and $50 for 1-2 Switch when they can get this kind of thing on the smartphone they already own for next to nothing.



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zorg1000 on 03 February 2017
Lawlight said:
This is just my opinion so don't shoot me. Based on the trailer it seems that they're trying to go after the Wii crowd again. But truth be told, I see this being appealing to Japanese and the Nintendo core audience but losing the children demography. Parents won't be buying one for each of their kids like they did with the 3DS and DS, especially not at $300. And in this day and age, people don't need to carry a dedicated handheld anymore.

Well now that you can play multiplayer games with a single device, perhaps parents wont need to get each child their own seperate device.



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Goodnightmoon on 03 February 2017
curl-6 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Don't be that dense, harcore gamers will see Zelda, casual players will see 1,2 Switch, is really that simple, if there is no market for those kind of players anymore, then 1,2 Switch will fail, that's it. It doesn't really hurt the image of anything, forum dwellers opinions shouldn't have so much weight in your conclusions, like the fact that nobody cares for motion control and party games, are you really sure of that? Because we could be quite surprised with the reception.

This kind of stuff had some appeal through its novelty back in the day, but its no longer novel like it was back then. Simple minigames of this sort can be downloaded for free or a paltry 99 cents on the app store these days. That's where the Wii Sports crowd are these days, it makes no sense for them to pay $300 on a Switch and $50 for 1-2 Switch when they can get this kind of thing on the smartphone they already own for next to nothing.

But what if this story we all have been telling all this year was only partly true? WiiU had too much problems to get a conclusion like that from its fate.



curl-6 on 03 February 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
curl-6 said:

This kind of stuff had some appeal through its novelty back in the day, but its no longer novel like it was back then. Simple minigames of this sort can be downloaded for free or a paltry 99 cents on the app store these days. That's where the Wii Sports crowd are these days, it makes no sense for them to pay $300 on a Switch and $50 for 1-2 Switch when they can get this kind of thing on the smartphone they already own for next to nothing.

But what if this story we all have been telling all this year was only partly true? WiiU had too much problems to get a conclusion like that from its fate.

I don't think it's so much the Wii U that proves it; Wii U was too expensive and not accessible enough to appeal to casuals anyway. It's more that the kind of accessible "casual" software that earned the Wii its blue ocean following is now well established on mobile devices at very low prices. People's phones are now their go-to provider for simple, pick-up-and-play stuff.



Goodnightmoon on 03 February 2017
curl-6 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

But what if this story we all have been telling all this year was only partly true? WiiU had too much problems to get a conclusion like that from its fate.

I don't think it's so much the Wii U that proves it; Wii U was too expensive and not accessible enough to appeal to casuals anyway. It's more that the kind of accessible "casual" software that earned the Wii its blue ocean following is now well established on mobile devices at very low prices. People's phones are now their go-to provider for simple, pick-up-and-play stuff.

Offer them something compelling enough again and you might find half of them returning. 



curl-6 on 03 February 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
curl-6 said:

I don't think it's so much the Wii U that proves it; Wii U was too expensive and not accessible enough to appeal to casuals anyway. It's more that the kind of accessible "casual" software that earned the Wii its blue ocean following is now well established on mobile devices at very low prices. People's phones are now their go-to provider for simple, pick-up-and-play stuff.

Offer them something compelling enough again and you might find half of them returning. 

I don't see how making chewing noises into a microphone or pretending to milk a cow is in any way compelling.