Games that ruined entire franchises

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miz1q2w3e on 28 January 2017

Super Paper Mario, Sticker Star, Color Splash.

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miz1q2w3e on 28 January 2017

Kjartan said:
Pokémon X/Y, thanks god they reversed it with Sun/Moon

What's wrong with X/Y? I liked Pokemon X a lot.

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miz1q2w3e on 28 January 2017

flashfire926 said:
Pokemon Black/White(not 2) and XY

What's wrong with B/W? Pokemon White was one of my fav Pokemon games.

Also, why X/Y? I'm genuinely curious.

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SegataSanshiro on 28 January 2017

This maybe a bit early but potentially Street Fighter V. I don't think it outright killed SF. It has damaged it however. Granted the game plays very good but the DLC bullshit and the always online thing. Botched launch. It has a bad reputation that has affected it's ratings even on amazon plus with in a few months was reduced to 20 bucks. The SFV collectors edition was quickly reduced to 40 bucks.

Mortal Kombat vs DC. Ok yes Mortal Kombat still lives but under a different company. This game was desperate to get that Marvel Vs Capcom but nerfed the MK characters. Such a mistake. It helped kill Midway.

Dungeon Siege III. Here is a series once held in the same regard as Diablo and in some ways bested Diablo. With III they made a unbalanced bland game trying to cash in on Dragon Age half assed Dialogue Trees that don't affect anything. Bosses that are all the same and re skinned but act the same. They are also heavily unbalanced and difficult..they are designed for you to have online friends play with you so if Solo..sucks to be you. It is playable and for mega cheap is a just ok fix for Diablo but so many better options. Series is very likely dead.

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onionberry on 28 January 2017

SegataSanshiro said:

This maybe a bit early but potentially Street Fighter V. I don't think it outright killed SF. It has damaged it however. Granted the game plays very good but the DLC bullshit and the always online thing. Botched launch. It has a bad reputation that has affected it's ratings even on amazon plus with in a few months was reduced to 20 bucks. The SFV collectors edition was quickly reduced to 40 bucks.

Mortal Kombat vs DC. Ok yes Mortal Kombat still lives but under a different company. This game was desperate to get that Marvel Vs Capcom but nerfed the MK characters. Such a mistake. It helped kill Midway.

Dungeon Siege III. Here is a series once held in the same regard as Diablo and in some ways bested Diablo. With III they made a unbalanced bland game trying to cash in on Dragon Age half assed Dialogue Trees that don't affect anything. Bosses that are all the same and re skinned but act the same. They are also heavily unbalanced and difficult..they are designed for you to have online friends play with you so if Solo..sucks to be you. It is playable and for mega cheap is a just ok fix for Diablo but so many better options. Series is very likely dead.

SFV is a great game with a bad business model, right now I enjoy the game quite a lot but yeah it was terrible.

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Farsala on 28 January 2017

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I enjoyed Dynasty Warriors 6 more then a lot of the other games on my list. But it came out at the same time as many other disappointments, and I basically got addicted to WoW.

Dynasty Warriors 7 was a lot better then 6 but I still don't hold it above the PS2 gen Dynasty Warriors. Mass characters are nice, however I really want enemies to be stronger like before. In Dynasty Warriors 3 it was certainly possible and easy to get over 1000 KOs , but if you came across 30 crossbowmen and didn't react accordingly or charged into a group of elite guards without any thought then you could still die.

Well I can't really remember DW3 so well, but I'll agree with the weaker enemies than before, although it's probably more that they are less agressive and your attacks also have greater range rather than them just being weaker. And hey, at least DW still beats SW in this regard. With those hyper attacks the average peons really are completely worthless as an enemy.

I believe range was better before tbh. Also phantom soldiers, due to PS2 HW limitations, if you killed 10 with a nice combo 10 more might appear out of nowhere. While with new gen you can hit them all if you want.

But for real even the peons in DW3 could phase you and stop you midcombo if they snuck in an attack somewhere. All enemies had as good of range as you did with the same weapons, and they attacked frequently if you didn't control them. It was quite balanced too like this:

Peon/Private: 1 square hit

Sergeant: 2

Major: 3

Elite guards: 4+ charge hit

Officer: All the above and up to 6

The ai/ enemies were good enough that after leveling up your bodyguards and taking 8 of them, that they could solo the entire map of the easy levels if you let them. (Besides last hit on boss) Morale was a thing too, but that is another topic.