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Good! 145 35.02%
 
Get rid of this as fast as possible. 200 48.31%
 
Needs more exceptions 25 6.04%
 
List needs to be redone 44 10.63%
 
Total:414
Peh said:
areason said:

By your logic people should arrive to a country and then apply for a visa. 

Well, they can't stay at home and wait for asylum while "ISIS" runs over their town burning it down and chopping people heads off, now can they?

Did you saw videos of mass execution done by them? If you are not fast enough of getting away, you are done for. It's not pretty.

https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2017/Jan/29/LiveLeak-dot-com-a1a_1485703814-qysvwumsuhcy_1485703868.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bddf934a46d8d68d50&ec_rate=230



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Peh said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

It’s about the hypocrisy of you saying “The facts I use are presented by your position.” That right there, shows your ignorance and the fact that you act like only your position/opinion is valid.

 

Do you know what hypocrisy means?

Just to clarify your confusion :

You wrote: "you realize that he may have more insides on how the system works and what’s wrong with it, then any of us on this forum? Got it ????? You know, you and me, two guys on the net, Trump … the guy that actually has the inside …."

Meaning, Trump is president, he knows what he is doing. Shut up and don't question it, because you don't have a clue. That's what you said. Never question the authority, because you have no clue.

Which I responed with:

"You certainly are every dictarors favourite follower. They would be proud of you. Just do what you are asked and don't ask questions."

Where am I wrong? That's your position you are holding right now by that statement of yours. I guess someone has to hold the mirror infront of you, because you don't seem to be looking at it.

First, you call Trump a dictator, even tho he has been elected democratically, that shows your bias.

Second, you show your true face when you changed my words. I’ve never said “Shut up and don't question it, because you don't have a clue.”, you can’t read, or you do it selectively to prove your point. All I’ve said is that people like Trump have more inside on how the system works, then people like us. Don’t take my words out of context, read the comments feed and to whom I was answering.



ratuscafoarterea said:
Peh said:

Well, they can't stay at home and wait for asylum while "ISIS" runs over their town burning it down and chopping people heads off, now can they?

Did you saw videos of mass execution done by them? If you are not fast enough of getting away, you are done for. It's not pretty.

https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2017/Jan/29/LiveLeak-dot-com-a1a_1485703814-qysvwumsuhcy_1485703868.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bddf934a46d8d68d50&ec_rate=230

Saudi Arabia took half a million of refugees from Syria. I don't know what you want to tell me with that.



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coolbeans said:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/01/29/news-bulletin-the-list-of-muslim-nations-in-trumps-socalled-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021

For those curious as to why these 7 countries are on the list.

This has been posted several times on this, liberal snowflakes  will continue to ignore it.



ratuscafoarterea said:
Peh said:

Do you know what hypocrisy means?

Just to clarify your confusion :

You wrote: "you realize that he may have more insides on how the system works and what’s wrong with it, then any of us on this forum? Got it ????? You know, you and me, two guys on the net, Trump … the guy that actually has the inside …."

Meaning, Trump is president, he knows what he is doing. Shut up and don't question it, because you don't have a clue. That's what you said. Never question the authority, because you have no clue.

Which I responed with:

"You certainly are every dictarors favourite follower. They would be proud of you. Just do what you are asked and don't ask questions."

Where am I wrong? That's your position you are holding right now by that statement of yours. I guess someone has to hold the mirror infront of you, because you don't seem to be looking at it.

First, you call Trump a dictator, even tho he has been elected democratically, that shows your bias.

Second, you show your true face when you changed my words. I’ve never said “Shut up and don't question it, because you don't have a clue.”, you can’t read, or you do it selectively to prove your point. All I’ve said is that people like Trump have more inside on how the system works, then people like us. Don’t take my words out of context, read the comments feed and to whom I was answering.

 

First, I didn't call Trump a dictator. Care to proof me wrong.

 

Second, intepretation. Care to elaborate what the purpose was of saying that Trump has inside knowledge in contrast to us on this board other than shutting us up?



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palou said:

And it's absolutely ridiculous. Barring entry for EVERYONE regardless of context (with the excpetion of non-muslims persecuted for their religion)? This is just shitting on the rights of a ton of people! I know an Iranian national, currently living in Canada, who got a post-doc at MIT in mathematics, why block him entry into the country? Great way to make the whole region hate the US even more.

 

And the list doesn't even include any of the biggest terrorist hubs in the region! (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan) Most of the nations on the list haven't had any connection to any terrorist attacks in the US for the last 20 years or so (the only country that makes any sense at all would be Yemen.)

 

edit; So, it's confirmed that the person I know won't be able to enter the US, and thus just lost himself a post-doc at MIT (extremely important to his career.) Fuck Trump, no consideration whatsoever of how these decisions can ruin lives of normal individuals. Also Americans, without a doubt, considering that there has been a response banning of American citizens in some countries.

You know why it is done? It is because the terrorists are coming with the refugees. If nobody's in war with west, they'll start a civil war to have terrorists coming to west with the refugees. The only way to stop the terrorist coming, is to not to let them come to the country. Sucks for the people in actual need of help. This is also the way to finally have some peace in middle-east and Africa.

And, by seeing how racist USA obviously is after the Trump election, isn't it just better for them to not to enter such a racist country in the first place?



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Peh said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2017/Jan/29/LiveLeak-dot-com-a1a_1485703814-qysvwumsuhcy_1485703868.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bddf934a46d8d68d50&ec_rate=230

Saudi Arabia took half a million of refugees from Syria. I don't know what you want to tell me with that.

Any proof, or just BS talk? Also, it makes more sense for them to go there then USA.



this is actually nothing new i believe something like this has been done in the past



ratuscafoarterea said:
Peh said:

Saudi Arabia took half a million of refugees from Syria. I don't know what you want to tell me with that.

Any proof, or just BS talk? Also, it makes more sense for them to go there then USA.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-04/syria-s-refugees-feel-more-welcome-in-europe-than-in-the-gulf

There are 500,000 Syrians in Saudi Arabia, according to Nabil Othman, acting regional representative to the Gulf region at the UNHCR. In official documentation they are referred to as “Arab brothers and sisters in distress,” he said.

 

Also, I remind you to watch your tone. 



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Peh said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

First, you call Trump a dictator, even tho he has been elected democratically, that shows your bias.

Second, you show your true face when you changed my words. I’ve never said “Shut up and don't question it, because you don't have a clue.”, you can’t read, or you do it selectively to prove your point. All I’ve said is that people like Trump have more inside on how the system works, then people like us. Don’t take my words out of context, read the comments feed and to whom I was answering.

 

First, I didn't call Trump a dictator. Care to proof me wrong.

 

Second, intepretation. Care to elaborate what the purpose was of saying that Trump has inside knowledge in contrast to us on this board other than shutting us up?

Yes you did, indirectly on your first reply to me when you’ve implied that I’m pandering for a dictator.

Second, go back on the comments feed, read and use logic.