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Forums - Politics - So, Trump's ban on certain nationalities is in effect.

 

Your opinion on the ban

Good! 145 35.02%
 
Get rid of this as fast as possible. 200 48.31%
 
Needs more exceptions 25 6.04%
 
List needs to be redone 44 10.63%
 
Total:414
Goodnightmoon on 29 January 2017

And people ask for a bigger list of banned countries? lmao, humans have what we deserve.



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ratuscafoarterea on 29 January 2017
vkaraujo said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

Do you work for Homeland Security? How do you know that "There's no reason they couldn't come up with a new vetting process without this policy" ?

Guy, I’ve just give you the answer but no matter what you don’t seem to listen. Good , have it your way. Bye now

Anyone could ask you the same...

Do you work for Homeland Security?
How do you know that they need this policy to come up with a new vetting process?


Since civil rights are being infringed, one would expect that the reasonable thing to do is to explain why that is needed before hand.

You realize that I'm only quoting Trump, you realize that he may have more insides on how the system works and what’s wrong with it, then any of us on this forum? Got it ????? You know, you and me, two guys on the net, Trump … the guy that actually has the inside ….



vkaraujo on 29 January 2017
ratuscafoarterea said:

You realize that I'm only quoting Trump, you realize that he may have more insides on how the system works and what’s wrong with it, then any of us on this forum? Got it ????? You know, you and me, two guys on the net, Trump … the guy that actually has the inside ….

 

So, just to make it clear, you are really saying that anything any president do must have its reasons and should not be explained/questioned?



palou on 29 January 2017
maxleresistant said:
"Your opinion on the ban

-Good!

-Get rid of this as fast as possible.

-Needs more exceptions

-List needs to be redone"


How about a "We shouldn't ban people based on their nationality" answer.

I may be weird, but I prefer to live in a non fascist non-extremist country, so fuck trump, and fuck this law.

That was the second option, if it wasn't clear.



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Alkibiádēs on 29 January 2017

By the way, of the seven nationalities that are banned, not a single one has committed terrorist attacks on American soil in the last 40 years.

But Pakistan and Saudi Arabia aren't banned. Trump is a hypocritical scumbag. He's supporting terrorism because this will only increase American hatred in the Middle East.



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maxleresistant on 29 January 2017
ratuscafoarterea said:
maxleresistant said:

Oh, so yeah right, since they are working for someone else, lik you say they are, that absolves the US army from all their doings there. That's how it works.

 

You are one screwed up person you know? I get that you are biased and racist, but you are not even smart about it. You just don't make any sense.

So, I’m bias and racist because I have explained to you some facts about why the US is involved in the Middle-east. I see. Not one time did I’ve excused the US for doing the dirty work for Israel and the Saudi’s , or I’ve said that the US is right to wage those wars, all I’ve said is that you’re naïve if you think that those wars are only happening to server USA’s interests, or that only USA is to blame for those wars. But yeaha, I’m the racist because you’re too blind to realize what is actually going on with this world.

 

Well, why are talking about that in the first place? What's your point? It doesn't change the fact that they are killing people their? Yes Saudi Arabia and Israel are no better. And so what?

My point was about the ban itself, trying to criminalize a whole country based on the idea that there is too many muslims coming to america to kill americans. Meanwhile there is bigger problems that needs to be taken care of like school shooting. And yes the hypocrisy is baffling since the US army is right now actually killling a lot of people in the middle east, for whatever reasons, may it be US interests or Saudi's or Israel, it doesn't change the fact that the whole thing is ridiculously fucked up.



maxleresistant on 29 January 2017
palou said:
maxleresistant said:
"Your opinion on the ban

-Good!

-Get rid of this as fast as possible.

-Needs more exceptions

-List needs to be redone"


How about a "We shouldn't ban people based on their nationality" answer.

I may be weird, but I prefer to live in a non fascist non-extremist country, so fuck trump, and fuck this law.

That was the second option, if it wasn't clear.

Ohhh, "this" is the ban. Oh right. Sorry about that, I get it. Let me vote then ^^



maxleresistant on 29 January 2017
Alkibiádēs said:
By the way, of the seven nationalities that are banned, not a single one has committed terrorist attacks on American soil in the last 40 years.

But Pakistan and Saudi Arabia aren't banned. Trump is a hypocritical scumbag. He's supporting terrorism because this will only increase American hatred in the Middle East.

Exactly, well said sir



numberwang on 29 January 2017

NPR just indicated that Trump chose these countries based on personal business - truth is that list came from the DHS under Obama.

Defund NPR.

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/512199324/countries-listed-on-trumps-refugee-ban-dont-include-those-he-has-business-with

 

Should Obama have included more countries on that list?



Peh on 29 January 2017
ratuscafoarterea said:
vkaraujo said:

Anyone could ask you the same...

Do you work for Homeland Security?
How do you know that they need this policy to come up with a new vetting process?


Since civil rights are being infringed, one would expect that the reasonable thing to do is to explain why that is needed before hand.

You realize that I'm only quoting Trump, you realize that he may have more insides on how the system works and what’s wrong with it, then any of us on this forum? Got it ????? You know, you and me, two guys on the net, Trump … the guy that actually has the inside ….

 

You certainly are every dictarors favourite follower. They would be proud of you. Just do what you are asked and don't ask questions.



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