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Your opinion on the ban

Good! 145 35.02%
 
Get rid of this as fast as possible. 200 48.31%
 
Needs more exceptions 25 6.04%
 
List needs to be redone 44 10.63%
 
Total:414
barneystinson69 said:
NewGuy said:

America was founded on settlers and slave labor, not immigrants. There was no governing body and no America when the settlers came here. Immigrants are important and have undoubtedly helped the growth of our country though. Legal immigration is definitely welcome, as long as the vetting and due process is thorough and followed.

You guys are in trouble as Trudeau is pretty much opening your borders right under your noses and you guys are doing nothing about it. To be honest it greatly concerns me and we'll either have to merge or create a wall there as well.

I have no problem with small amounts of legal immigration. But America DOES NOT need one million new people a year, and even more illegally. Canada definently DOES NOT need 300,000 more people per year, plus 60-70k additional refugee's. I cannot understand how not a single political party in this country does not want to decrease immigration. If Canada was bringing some high skilled workers that we REALLY needed, then I understand. But we're way overboard with this crazy "multiculturalism" experiment. 

Everybody is okay with regulated and thoroguh legal immigration. Trudeau said recently he'll take Syrian refugees who don't get in here and his little tweet got a lot of support. You guys are taking in way too many without proper vetting. If that doesn't worry you, then I don't know what will. "Diversity is our strength" as per Trudeau's stupid tweet is a silly ideology if it's done just for the sake of diversity.



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pray4mojo said:
barneystinson69 said:

Jesus christ, this "immigrants built this country" argument. Guess what, America was founded over 250 years ago!!!! It already has plenty of people, and is growing without immigrants, and is already a COUNTRY. I hear the same thing about Canada all the time, about how we for some reason NEED to bring in more people for whatever reason, yet face stagnation and little job growth. Immigration is a way of producing cheap labour and forcing American's to work for less (same applies to my country). I'm not sure about American, but Canada is already full enough, and America has 8 times more people. Should America open its borders to everyone with no protection for its citizens? Should millions just come from Mexico illegally just because they jumped a fence, while others have to wait years. Should America bring in terrorism, just because a few people want to bash white people for their problems? Blame the politicans for islamic terror, not the very ideology that tells muslims to conquer the world through force (read the Quran). I'm sure its not a problem when Saudi Arabia brings in no refugees, and promotes terrorism around the globe. But when America doesn't allow in refugees, suddenly their "racist"! Same thing with all other western countries... coincidence? And nearly 30% of America is non-white (that is closer to 40% when you disregard hispanic whites, though I count them), so why are you assuming white people are scared? And hey, I mean since most of America's original immigrants where white, why not only allow them in? Sounds a bit hyprocritical to say that, but hey! 

You're a racist, insecure, small minded, bigoted piece of fucking shit (I will gladly take the warning or ban for flamming/insulting you on this one) and I'm not going to engage with you any further until you can evolve as a human being. People like you can't be reasoned with (as evident by our interaction) because racism is akin to mental illness. The only way you'll wake the hell up and figure out that we (as in the human race) all need one another is when you get out of bed one day and all by yourself... figure it out. Nobody online is going to do that for you. I could try all day. I could get all Jesus on you and turn the cheek. I could offer you all kinds of peaceful words and reason with you... but it won't work because your bigotry prevents it. It's mental illness. It's cancer and it eats reason for breakfast, lunch and dinner. 

So, having said that. Get back to me privately when/if you ever come to the realization that the human race is bigger than some fucking literal and or metaphorical "wall" and I'll be glad to extend my hand. But until then, no thanks. I'm not wasting anymore time.

Playing the "racist" card with logical facts. You want to know another fact that I don't usually tell, I am of half Iranian decent. Thats right, I am only half white (well, depends on your definition, though I won't be going into that), so in the sense maybe I'm a race traitor? No, of course not. I'm saying all facts. Its not just white people who're scared about terrorism and open boarders, because nearly 30% (or 40%) of America is non-white. Stop calling everyone racist; I am willing to have a reasonable discussion, but trying to call people bigots and "pieces of shit" doesn't intice me to continue that discussion. You appologize and remove your hateful comment, and I will more than gladly not report you. I understand people can get a bit too much into a discussion, and I am willing to start fresh.



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NewGuy said:
barneystinson69 said:

I have no problem with small amounts of legal immigration. But America DOES NOT need one million new people a year, and even more illegally. Canada definently DOES NOT need 300,000 more people per year, plus 60-70k additional refugee's. I cannot understand how not a single political party in this country does not want to decrease immigration. If Canada was bringing some high skilled workers that we REALLY needed, then I understand. But we're way overboard with this crazy "multiculturalism" experiment. 

Everybody is okay with regulated and thoroguh legal immigration. Trudeau said recently he'll take Syrian refugees who don't get in here and his little tweet got a lot of support. You guys are taking in way too many without proper vetting. If that doesn't worry you, then I don't know what will. "Diversity is our strength" as per Trudeau's stupid tweet is a silly ideology if it's done just for the sake of diversity.

I have no idea why so many Canadians think we need so many refugees and immigrants. I think we need less immigration, and less refugees. They need to be properly screened, and have to come from Syria. Lots of Canadians think this way, but are too afraid to say anything because they'll be called "racist".



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

pray4mojo said:
barneystinson69 said:

Jesus christ, this "immigrants built this country" argument. Guess what, America was founded over 250 years ago!!!! It already has plenty of people, and is growing without immigrants, and is already a COUNTRY. I hear the same thing about Canada all the time, about how we for some reason NEED to bring in more people for whatever reason, yet face stagnation and little job growth. Immigration is a way of producing cheap labour and forcing American's to work for less (same applies to my country). I'm not sure about American, but Canada is already full enough, and America has 8 times more people. Should America open its borders to everyone with no protection for its citizens? Should millions just come from Mexico illegally just because they jumped a fence, while others have to wait years. Should America bring in terrorism, just because a few people want to bash white people for their problems? Blame the politicans for islamic terror, not the very ideology that tells muslims to conquer the world through force (read the Quran). I'm sure its not a problem when Saudi Arabia brings in no refugees, and promotes terrorism around the globe. But when America doesn't allow in refugees, suddenly their "racist"! Same thing with all other western countries... coincidence? And nearly 30% of America is non-white (that is closer to 40% when you disregard hispanic whites, though I count them), so why are you assuming white people are scared? And hey, I mean since most of America's original immigrants where white, why not only allow them in? Sounds a bit hyprocritical to say that, but hey! 

You're a racist, insecure, small minded, bigoted piece of fucking shit (I will gladly take the warning or ban for flamming/insulting you on this one) and I'm not going to engage with you any further until you can evolve as a human being. People like you can't be reasoned with (as evident by our interaction) because racism is akin to mental illness. The only way you'll wake the hell up and figure out that we (as in the human race) all need one another is when you get out of bed one day and all by yourself... figure it out. Nobody online is going to do that for you. I could try all day. I could get all Jesus on you and turn the cheek. I could offer you all kinds of peaceful words and reason with you... but it won't work because your bigotry prevents it. It's mental illness. It's cancer and it eats reason for breakfast, lunch and dinner. 

So, having said that. Get back to me privately when/if you ever come to the realization that the human race is bigger than some fucking literal and or metaphorical "wall" and I'll be glad to extend my hand. But until then, no thanks. I'm not wasting anymore time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsVONO75utI

That's bullshit! That's racist!



iron_megalith said:


Nevertheless, it's hard to screen unruly immigrants. The list needs to be bigger. Hell 14 years I've been away from California, and I can already see how shit people are when it comes to following simple traffic rules. They were there, but they weren't this bad. Most of the time, it's hispanics that I see who don't give a shit.

No I'm not being racist. It's actually my personal observation.

Trump called that dummy Prince out for it. That dummy never replied to him. It's obvious why they won't take in any of them.



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Naum said:
That 40%+ have voted for "Good" is seriously disgusting.

LOL you are not even American. Trump is doing what should have been done ages ago.



NewGuy said:
palou said:

I'm personnaly for free travel of workforce. Not giving citizenship and all benefits, but let everyone work where they want to.

It is a nice, dystopian thought. I'll give you that. However, do you think, given the current state of the world and human nature in general, that it is a feasible thing today or in the future?

Why dystopian?



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barneystinson69 said:
pray4mojo said:

You're a racist, insecure, small minded, bigoted piece of fucking shit (I will gladly take the warning or ban for flamming/insulting you on this one) and I'm not going to engage with you any further until you can evolve as a human being. People like you can't be reasoned with (as evident by our interaction) because racism is akin to mental illness. The only way you'll wake the hell up and figure out that we (as in the human race) all need one another is when you get out of bed one day and all by yourself... figure it out. Nobody online is going to do that for you. I could try all day. I could get all Jesus on you and turn the cheek. I could offer you all kinds of peaceful words and reason with you... but it won't work because your bigotry prevents it. It's mental illness. It's cancer and it eats reason for breakfast, lunch and dinner. 

So, having said that. Get back to me privately when/if you ever come to the realization that the human race is bigger than some fucking literal and or metaphorical "wall" and I'll be glad to extend my hand. But until then, no thanks. I'm not wasting anymore time.

Playing the "racist" card with logical facts. You want to know another fact that I don't usually tell, I am of half Iranian decent. Thats right, I am only half white (well, depends on your definition, though I won't be going into that), so in the sense maybe I'm a race traitor? No, of course not. I'm saying all facts. Its not just white people who're scared about terrorism and open boarders, because nearly 30% (or 40%) of America is non-white. Stop calling everyone racist, I am willing to have a reasonable discussion, but trying to call people bigots and "pieces of shit" doesn't intice me to continue that discussion. You appologize and remove your hateful comment, and I will more than gladly not report you.

 Isn't it fun when the far left brands you as a race traitor or internalized racist? That has happened to me a number of times and I get extremely annoyed when people assume I should think a particular way because of my race.



barneystinson69 said:
NewGuy said:

Everybody is okay with regulated and thoroguh legal immigration. Trudeau said recently he'll take Syrian refugees who don't get in here and his little tweet got a lot of support. You guys are taking in way too many without proper vetting. If that doesn't worry you, then I don't know what will. "Diversity is our strength" as per Trudeau's stupid tweet is a silly ideology if it's done just for the sake of diversity.

I have no idea why so many Canadians think we need so many refugees and immigrants. I think we need less immigration, and less refugees. They need to be properly screened, and have to come from Syria. Lots of Canadians think this way, but are too afraid to say anything because they'll be called "racist".

It's the left liberal media who drive people to think a certain way. I was left leaning too until I started to look at facts. Facts trump everything to me (pun intended).



NewGuy said:
palou said:

I'm personnaly for free travel of workforce. Not giving citizenship and all benefits, but let everyone work where they want to.

It is a nice, dystopian thought. I'll give you that. However, do you think, given the current state of the world and human nature in general, that it is a feasible thing today or in the future?

I consider it a goal to work towards. Just because it can't be done immediately, does not mean that it should not be taken in consideration.



Bet with PeH: 

I win if Arms sells over 700 000 units worldwide by the end of 2017.

Bet with WagnerPaiva:

 

I win if Emmanuel Macron wins the french presidential election May 7th 2017.