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Arminillo said:
bunchanumbers said:

I consider him to be a able politician who did a fine job in spite of hundreds of other politicians vowing to do everything possible to stop him.

I cant tell if this is trump or obama you are talking about, this line sounds like it could go to either. Werent democrats wanting people to give obama a chance? Then trunp comes along and now democrats vow to oppose everything he does?

Its called shoe on the other foot. Or you could call it taste of your own medicine. GOP took the adversarial tone first to the detriment of the country.



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Lawlight said:

Anyone would figure that "Day 1" as something being important as opposed to literally on the first day in office. You'd have to be sore loser to actually use "day one" in the literal sense when attacking a president.

Personally, as I said before, I don't really care.  This is so minor that it means nothing.  I already knew he couldn't do some of what he promised.

However, you're calling someone a loser for pointing out lies?  Donald Trump did, in fact, continuously declare "Day One" promises throughout his campaign.  He promised a lot of stuff outside his control.  If he said those things then he is responsible for them.  

More than likely he had no idea if he could do those things "Day One" or not, he just said them to get elected.  That's political rhetoric up and down and no politician should be defended for that.  He was just bullshiting and pandering.  Taking him to task for it might be nit-picking (in this instance) but it's also valid.

"You should have known he couldn't do what he said," is such an absolutely ridiculous defense.  It's nothing but blame shifting.  

If you, personally, aren't bothered by Trump's rhetoric, that's fine.  Attacking people who correctly point out a politician's rhetoric is not.



bunchanumbers said:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/scorecard-bulk-of-trumps-day-one-promises-unfulfilled/ar-AAm8bz1?li=BBnb7Kz

WASHINGTON — As a candidate, Donald Trump set a sweeping "Day One" agenda.

As of Monday evening, the vast majority of his promises had gone unfulfilled.

At rallies and in speeches over the course of his campaign — as well as in a contract he spelled out with American voters — Trump vowed to move swiftly to overhaul the country's approaches to trade and immigration.

He said repealing and replacing his predecessor's signature health care law would be "one of his first acts as president." He vowed to terminate what he dubbed his predecessor's "two illegal executive amnesties." And he committed to push forward with sweeping ethics reforms and undo scores of environmental and other regulations.

But since he was sworn into office on Friday afternoon, President Trump has moved forward at a decidedly slower pace.

The White House has said it hasn't stuck to its plan because it wants to maximize attention.

"If we put 'em all out on one day, they get lost in the ether, I think," White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday. But Trump and his aides have also suggested they're reconsidering speed for political and policy reasons.

Here's what Trump promised to do on his first day in office, compared with what he's actually accomplished so far.

 

FULFILLED:

Promise: Impose a hiring freeze on federal employees, excluding military, public safety, and public health staff.

Fulfilled: Trump signed a memorandum Monday freezing most federal government hiring, with an exception for the military.

Promise: Formally withdraw from the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Fulfilled: Trump signed a memorandum Monday that moves to pull the United States out of the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact.

IN PROGRESS:

Promise: Announce his intention to renegotiate or withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement with Canada and Mexico.

Progress: In conversations with Canadian and Mexican leaders, aides say Trump has made clear his intention to renegotiate the deal, though no formal steps have been taken.

Promise: Convene his generals and inform them that they have 30 days to submit a new plan for defeating the Islamic State group.

Progress: Spicer said on Monday he believes Trump has formerly requested Pentagon advice on changing the campaign against the militants. He says the president will continue to have those conversations later in the week.

Promise: Ask Congress to send him a bill to repeal and replace Obama's signature health care law.

Progress: Trump did sign an executive order Friday aimed at "minimizing the economic burden" of the "Obamacare" law. The order notes that Trump intends to seek the "prompt repeal" of the law. But in the meantime, it allows the Health and Human Services Department and other federal agencies to delay implementing any piece of the law that might impose a "fiscal burden" on states, health care providers, families or individuals.

PENDING:

IMMIGRATION:

—Stop all federal funding to "sanctuary cities" — places where local officials don't arrest or detain immigrants living in the country illegally for federal authorities.

—Begin deporting what Trump estimates to be more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants living in the country.

—Cancel visas for citizens of foreign countries that won't take those criminal illegal immigrants back.

—Immediately terminate former President Barack Obama's "two illegal executive amnesties." That presumably includes DACA, which protects people who were brought into the country illegally as children. Spicer said on Monday that, "For now ... the focus is going to be on people who have done harm to our country."

SECURITY AND DEFENSE:

—Immediately suspend the Syrian refugee program.

—Suspend immigration from "terror-prone regions" where he says vetting is too difficult.

—Implement new "extreme" immigration vetting techniques.

TRADE:

—Direct his treasury secretary to label China a currency manipulator.

DRAINING THE SWAMP and GOVERNMENT REFORM:

—Propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.

—Ban White House and congressional officials from becoming lobbyists for five years after they leave the government.

—Ban former White House officials from lobbying on behalf of foreign governments for the rest of their lives.

—Ban foreign lobbyists from raising money for U.S. elections.

—Impose a requirement that for every new federal regulation imposed, two existing regulations be eliminated.

ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT:

—Remove any Obama-era roadblocks to energy projects such as the Keystone XL pipeline.

—Lift restrictions on mining coal and drilling for oil and natural gas.

—Cancel payments to the U.N.'s climate change programs and use the money to fix America's water and environmental infrastructure.

HEALTH CARE, GUN CONTROL AND OTHER ISSUES:

—Cancel "every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama."

—Begin the process of selecting a new Supreme Court justice.

—Get rid of gun-free zones in schools and on military bases.

 

Well there you have it. Trump the liar. All those day 1 promises broken. Where is the deportation force cracking skulls and dragging illegal mexicans out of the country? Where is the mass deportation of all immigrants who are here legally or not? More Trump lies. So much for that draining the swamp outsider who is going to save the country. Now the CEO of Exxon is the Secretary of State. Just Shameful.

 

Well you do realize they were all lies to get him into office, WELCOME to the obvious!

Trump was right about this, say a lie over and over again especially in social media, and a certian group of folks will belive it eventually.

Also it's day fuckin 4 of his presidency it takes much longer to move goverment law than four days lol"



It's has always been obvious he wouldn't be able to keep his promises. A lot of them are unrealistic and they would make everything worse.



bunchanumbers said:
The_Yoda said:

Simple question then. Do you consider Obama to be a liar?

I consider him to be a able politician who did a fine job in spite of hundreds of other politicians vowing to do everything possible to stop him.

As I said, a simple question which requires a yes or no answer.  Do you consider Obama a liar? I didn't ask you what kind of job you felt he did.

I'm obviously trying to establish that you are a hypocrite. That said just because you may be a hypocrite doesn't mean that your assertion that Trump is a liar is incorrect.

I will take the lack of an answer or further deflection as proof that you hold politicians to different standards making you a hypocrite.



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"Sore loser", "SJW", "liberal". Man, I swear to god. If I had penny for every time I read one of these words, I'd be able to buy Sony MS.

RIP, actual arguments. Go arguments I used to hear in 2nd grade ("but Paul did it too!") and ad hominem attacks.

 

OT: If I'm gonne judge Trump on anything, it's his cabinet. Truly dispicable and immoral choices. I don't see the point of judging him as a president on his first day.



It amazes me that people are still surprised that presidents don't fulfill all of their Day 1 promises.



naruball said:

"Sore loser", "SJW", "liberal". Man, I swear to god. If I had penny for every time I read one of these words, I'd be able to buy Sony MS.

RIP, actual arguments. Go arguments I used to hear in 2nd grade ("but Paul did it too!") and ad hominem attacks.

 

OT: If I'm gonne judge Trump on anything, it's his cabinet. Truly dispicable and immoral choices. I don't see the point of judging him as a president on his first day.

Although not always, sometimes just sometimes the shoe fits and in this thread I think the shoe seems to be a perfect fit. Had the OP blasted all previous presidents in his recolection as well as Trump then I'd just chalk it up to niavety but given his early respondse to me this doesn't seem to be the case....



Well trump has gone after low hanging fruit...

His moves on TPP and Keystone are likely popular though



naruball said:

"Sore loser", "SJW", "liberal". Man, I swear to god. If I had penny for every time I read one of these words, I'd be able to buy Sony MS.

RIP, actual arguments. Go arguments I used to hear in 2nd grade ("but Paul did it too!") and ad hominem attacks.


OT: If I'm gonne judge Trump on anything, it's his cabinet. Truly dispicable and immoral choices. I don't see the point of judging him as a president on his first day.

You edited your post on ,me.  The bolded is the best thing in the way of an argument from the Anti-Trump side I've seen in this thread. I agree his cabinet choices are worrying.  I just wish we had a decent candidate this last cycle. More is the pitty for us.