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Hiku said:

That's very incorrect. And dangerously uninformed.
He has already appointed people to his cabinet. Saying that we can't make assessments about that, when there have been congressional hearings for them for that very purpose, is like saying you can't judge me for putting a todler at the wheel of a bus until the bus has already crashed.
There have been many many concerns raised about many of his appointments lacking qualification, experience or even basic understanding of the departments they're put in charge of. What they have in common is donating millions to his campaign, and to the republican party.



Several of his apppointments completely contradicts his campaign promise of "draining the swamp" of lobbyists, and his strong message of him funding his own campaign so that he won't become corrupted by bribes, pretending to carry a similar message to Bernie Sanders, except what he witheld from voters who don't fact check (and that's probably the majority) is that this only meant paying for a portion of it. He still took millions in bribes and has since invited those people who are now cashing in their favors with him into his administration. Exactly what he claimed he wouldn't do.

We can't judge him for appointing someone from Goldman Sachs as treasure secretary, when he during his campaign slammed Hillary for dealing with them? After Trump said they are the worst bankers in Americawho "robbed the middle class"? Yes we can. And that's not an intended Obama pun.
Where's the special procecutor he was going to assign to investigate Hillary Day 1? Well he now says "I don't want to hurt them (the Clintons). They are good people." But during his campaign, he got people fired up at this prospect and they chanted "Lock her up!"
And there's a lot more to discuss about his campaign promises already.

So please don't tell us who stay informed about these things that we can't judge him yet. It grinds my gears because that is one reason he got elected.
His decisions already began before he was sworn in. Most of it will come from here on out, yes. But there are already actions he is held accountable for.

Assumed pontential damage =/= actual factual damage.



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Hiku said:
FunFan said:

Assumed pontential damage =/= actual factual damage.

"Can't claim anything" =/= damage.

We can certainly claim that him saying he would drain the swamp of lobbyists, and then inviting lobbyists into his administration after they donated millions to him, is very deceptive. Among many other things.

We'll get to actual damage when it becomes relevant.

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

FunFan said:
This is the kind of thing that makes me so glad Trump won. Nothing like the salt of feminists and other SJWs that think their "Holy" ideology is more important than the democratic system that was put in place.

Yup. Everyone protesting is clearly a salty SJW. Every.single.one.of.them.



I think in the end Trump is flawed but to be beat Trump, democrats need a better candidate.

Reality is Hillary was the first female to run for President in a serious manner and against one of the most sexist candidates ever and she failed increase female support to her.



LadyJasmine said:
I think in the end Trump is flawed but to be beat Trump, democrats need a better candidate.

Reality is Hillary was the first female to run for President in a serious manner and against one of the most sexist candidates ever and she failed increase female support to her.

She had baggage. A lifetime of public service pretty much led to a massive supply of ammo against her. Barack pretty much came outta nowhere and was considered new blood. Hillary's best chance was in 2008 and after she lost she probably should have never run again.



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FunFan said:
Hiku said:

"Can't claim anything" =/= damage.

We can certainly claim that him saying he would drain the swamp of lobbyists, and then inviting lobbyists into his administration after they donated millions to him, is very deceptive. Among many other things.

We'll get to actual damage when it becomes relevant.

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Saying Trump HAS gone back on his promises would be factually incorrect as, yes, he only became President, and in theory we'd have to wait four years to speak conclusively.

But it would be correct to say that many of Trump's Cabinet picks have a long history that form a direct contradiction to many of Trump's campaign promises, such as his supposed rejection of lobbyists and his claims he would represent the working-class American. Basically for him to fulfill those promises, the people he has staffed in key positions would have to act far differently (in some cases almost opposite) to how they've acted prior to their appointment.

Andrew Puzder is an excellent example. Appointing him as Secretary of Labor is like handing control of the Jedi Council over to Emperor Palpatine. (I don't mean the quiet, sneaky, friendly Palpatine, I mean the black-robbed, messed-up-face, sitting-on-his-chair-in-the-Death-Star-taunting-Luke-Skywalker Palpatine.) Sure, Puzder might have mellowed since the 'No Minimum Wage, No Mandatory Breaks, Wanna Replace My Staff With Robots' days, but if he hasn't, Dear GOD is Trump's administration not going to help the working class.

Technically speaking, it's in Trump's best interests to screw over the rights of the American worker, because by lowering wages and stripping as many pro-worker regulations as possible, Trump will make the country more appealing for companies, and thus bring in new jobs. Sure, the jobs will likely pay less than they used to, safety regulations will end up loosened or removed, and it may become perfectly legal for a company to have their employees work ten straight hours without so much as a thirty-second break, but Trump would be sure that 'MORE JOBS!' would be the only message his Press Secretary is sending.



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LadyJasmine said:
I think in the end Trump is flawed but to be beat Trump, democrats need a better candidate.

Reality is Hillary was the first female to run for President in a serious manner and against one of the most sexist candidates ever and she failed increase female support to her.

We already know who the first female president will be. She is on the White House already.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

Lawlight said:
deskpro2k3 said:

in regards to more people showing up to protest than to celebrate the inauguration. doesn't that seem strange to you?

Counting people around the world vs in a city...

These protests are useless anyway and will be forgotten by next week.

 

Are you out of sync with History? Protest is useless?

Here is a small list of a few that you might've taken for granted.

  •  The American Revolution
  • Boston Tea Party protest
  • Civil Rights movement
  • Women's Suffrage
  • Antiwar - To end the Vietnam War
  • Labor Movement

 

 

jason1637 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

there is protest everywhere around the united states, not just london.

the fact of the matter still remains, this is happening right after the inauguration, all across the globe. you think that's normal?

They should have called it an anti Trump march than a womens march. I saw more anti trump posters than things concerning womens rights like planned parenthood. Saw some pro Muslim posters as well.

Also Bush jr had lots of protestors https://youtu.be/eNf0sv1Hmlo

It's a womans march and protest against Trump's inauguration worldwide. Mostly women. The name is fine.

 

badgenome said:
deskpro2k3 said:

there is protest everywhere around the united states, not just london.

the fact of the matter still remains, this is happening right after the inauguration, all across the globe. you think that's normal?

The last Republican president was heavily protested as well, so yes. Seems normal to me. Lefties like to make a big do out of everything. Tbh, I expected more for a guy who is LITERALLY HITLER (WE MEAN IT THIS TIME).

 

you said hillary should run for mayor in london. I tried to get you to explain that joke. you know what, just forget it.



deskpro2k3 said:

you said hillary should run for mayor in london. I tried to get you to explain that joke. you know what, just forget it.

Because your picture was comparing the DC metro to the London one...



badgenome said:
deskpro2k3 said:

you said hillary should run for mayor in london. I tried to get you to explain that joke. you know what, just forget it.

Because your picture was comparing the DC metro to the London one...

hmm, maybe you're right.