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I'm hoping Scorpio will focus on use of higher quality assets in their 4K builds given its memory bandwidth and raw power difference allows it.

Right now i'm not too impressed with the Pro's advancements. Been gaming on PC in 2K and 4K quality for over4 years, i'm fairly confident console folk high on it are riding the placebo effect hard. Its mostly the same Ps4 games using the same assets as the weaker console, so the additional pixels aren't really bringing more detail to the games as compared to a build using higher quality texture and mapping assets. I really don't see much a difference as opposed to when i was upscaling my Fat to 4K. I don't think it comes close to running most games at Ultra quality on PC for sure, let alone the ability to run most at 60 fps at higher quality.



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Nintation360 said:

So in the end, Nintend will win and be right. It's not about graphics, it's about content.

No.  It's about quality over quantity.



If games run significantly better on xbox scorpio and look significantly better on xbox scorpio that is a huge win. I already believe xbox to have the best online service and controller out of the three consoles. This will make playing third party games on xbox a MUST. Judging by video game sales, third party games are what people play and buy the most 95% of the time.



LivingMetal said:
Nintation360 said:

So in the end, Nintend will win and be right. It's not about graphics, it's about content.

No.  It's about quality over quantity.

As long as there arnt software droughts.



They will last until 2020



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OdinHades said:

If you want the best of the best, PC is still the only option. Consoles are not an alternative for high end graphics. They never were.

But they dont try too, you pay £250 for a Xbox one or PS4. What do ypu pay for a high end PC? double or triple that.

If graphics are really important, price should not be an issue. If a high end graphics card is too expensive for someone, the person wasn't interested in high-end graphics anyway. 

If I want a sports car, I go and buy a sports car. I don't get a used Smart and pretend it's almost as good as a Porsche, do I? I also don't make silly comparisons to some other cheap cars that may be even more underpowered. The point is, all consoles are underpowered, even Scorpio and Pro. Graphics are just not an argument to buy such a device. The differences between those so-called "super-charged" consoles and standard devices is abysmal. No 4K, no 144 fps and not even an option to prefer fps over resolution. A highend PC draws graphics console gamers have never seen before. Scorpio and Pro are just a little sharper around the edges. While that might matter to some souls on this planet, I highly doubt the mass market will ever give two shits about it. 

Which brings me back to my initial assumption: Graphics in a gaming console simply don't matter. At all. As proven by the crazy fast original Xbox, the powerhouse PSP, the 64-Bit Jaguar, the heavily superior N64 and every mobile console that ever released alongside the Game Boy. Even when your specs are far behind the competition, you can still be more successful.

It's all about the software. That is true for the sales of a platform as well as its longevity.



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Hapuc12 said:
Uabit said:
Microsoft and Sony are doing this because people is leaving to PC looking for better gaming experiences, but they have a problem, even PS4 Pro and Scorpio are already outshined by high end PCs. So i'm going to say in 2019 - 2020 we'll have PS5 and the 4th Xbox already.

That's why 50% of steam userbase has weaker specs then PS4 and about 47% have the power of PS4 Pro about 3-4% have stronger PC's.

Yeah and last time i checked there were 150 million active Steam users so... Besides there are others like GOG, Battle.net, Uplay, Origin... 

Not everyone use Steam you know. 



Uabit said:
Hapuc12 said:

That's why 50% of steam userbase has weaker specs then PS4 and about 47% have the power of PS4 Pro about 3-4% have stronger PC's.

Yeah and last time i checked there were 150 million active Steam users so... Besides there are others like GOG, Battle.net, Uplay, Origin... 

Not everyone use Steam you know. 

Yeal out of those 150 milion 47% have weaker specs then PS4 and Xbox and the rest i don't need to repeat my self.

Uplay yeah not so much.

Origin sure for Battlefield Mass effect etc.

Gog 90% sure they have weak specs you can only get year old games and others are the one that are against drm.

But no matter all is cool.