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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
zorg1000 said:

That answer makes absolutely no sense.

The discussion is about 3rd parties, do you really think that Nintendo has a say in whether 3rd parties released ports of Gameboy games with color on SNES/Genesis or GBA games to PS2?

Even if they could control that, that doesn't explain why PSP & Vita have a large number of exclusive titles.

Oh ok. Well I don't really think that's a fair argument. The PSP was no where near close console and the Vita had a lot of exclusives that relied on portablity. A lot of Vita exclusives are third party answers to Monster Hunter, which was only on 3ds because that system was the most popular. If Monster Hunter was on Vita, who knows maybe i'd be on ps3. It's speculation, I'm not saying it's going to happen 100%

Edit : Let me put it like this. Small developers making titles for Vita that mimmick monster hunter are only on ps vita because they are competing with handheld monster hunter games. If they were a well established series like Monster hunter, they'd be on more consoles. In fact , Toukiden is on PS4 and that's a monster hunter clone.  Gravity Rush also started on Vita and ended up on ps4 because that was a more successful platform. Obviously these comparisons aren't without flaws, which is why i'm speculating.

Why isnt it a fair argument? You are wondering what is going to keep developers from porting Switch games to other devices, well what kept developers from porting previous games on portable devices to other devices?



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Third Party Exclusives Furss:
SMT5? Confirmed
Octopath Confirmed
Monster Hunter?
Yokai Watch?
BGE2? Possibly timed
I bet we will get another western 3rd party exclusive

SMT 5 is confirmed to be exclusive?

No just put a question mark next to it cause it may or may not.



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zorg1000 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Oh ok. Well I don't really think that's a fair argument. The PSP was no where near close console and the Vita had a lot of exclusives that relied on portablity. A lot of Vita exclusives are third party answers to Monster Hunter, which was only on 3ds because that system was the most popular. If Monster Hunter was on Vita, who knows maybe i'd be on ps3. It's speculation, I'm not saying it's going to happen 100%

Edit : Let me put it like this. Small developers making titles for Vita that mimmick monster hunter are only on ps vita because they are competing with handheld monster hunter games. If they were a well established series like Monster hunter, they'd be on more consoles. In fact , Toukiden is on PS4 and that's a monster hunter clone.  Gravity Rush also started on Vita and ended up on ps4 because that was a more successful platform. Obviously these comparisons aren't without flaws, which is why i'm speculating.

Why isnt it a fair argument? You are wondering what is going to keep developers from porting Switch games to other devices, well what kept developers from porting previous games on portable devices to other devices?

Maybe "fair" isn't the best word, disingenous is a better one. if the Switch is about as powerful on the go as the Wii U and more powerful when docked,  then developers just have to port to the docked version to the PS4 and bam. The PSP was no where near the PS3, Xbox 360, and not even very close to the Wii. The PSP game library was also based on what games worked for the PSP. A good example is Monster Hunter, the first 2 games sold terribly on the PS2 and it wasn't till the PSP that they became succcessful.  So they developed games around  the mobile market, however, with the third monster huner(monster hunter 3) we saw huge demand for Monster Hunter on a console. It was then ported to the 3ds( a system slightly less powerful than a gamecube, but comparable to a wii when you downscale the graphics on a game that isn't even pushing the Wii).

The PSP was released in a different time, a time where it was guaranteed that a handheld game should stay on handheld, and a console game should stay on a console. But we decent demand for Monster Hunter on consoles, and since  the Switch graphically performs like a home console(albeit an underpowered one), nothing is stoping a developer from putting a Switch game to the PS4, a system  that does decent in Japan and can sell gangbusters with software.

It's like you skipped the entire post, or didn't even bother to read the TLDR. It's pretty obvious why it isn't the same as GB to SNES, or PSP to PS3.



I don't see how being too powerful would be a problem

We can still see a lower budget game like Harvest Moon or Etrian Odyssey on the Switch, but instead of a $70-80 price tag, we could see it $40-50, like how it was priced with the 3DS

Developers aren't required to use all the features and power that the Switch has to offer, but it's an option if needed. More power could mean less optimization for some games and porting so it could attract more Japanese developers

Western games will take a bit hit with the power though



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Platina said:
I don't see how being too powerful would be a problem

We can still see a lower budget game like Harvest Moon or Etrian Odyssey on the Switch, but instead of a $70-80 price tag, we could see it $40-50, like how it was priced with the 3DS

Developers aren't required to use all the features and power that the Switch has to offer, but it's an option if needed. More power could mean less optimization for some games and porting so it could attract more Japanese developers

Western games will take a bit hit with the power though

Wow I must have really did a bad job with my original post. Apologies. I don't think you quite understand, though. I'm not saying they have to use all the power(I said in later replies a Monster Hunter 3 remaster would sell well on the PS4). The problem is more so that there's no reason to keep these 3rd party exclusives as exclusives anymore, unless Nintendo pays them off, because the power is at least somewhat comparable to the PS4 so the game can compete in the same market, whereas a 3ds game like Monster Hunter 4 couldn't go into the PS4 market.

And Harvest Moon or Etrian Odyssey just would have a hard time competing, even at the 40$ price range. Most people pay 40$ for like .. Far Cry 4 or Uncharted Remastered on consoles. 40$ for a game like that on what is basically a console wouldn't work very well in a retail space, they'd have to rely on almost all the fans of those series buying the new title, and  attach rates usually don't work like that(unless it's a first pary nintendo game like Mario). 

But yea I do agree that Japanese third parties will love it for stuff like Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy. Too bad Playstation might scoop up some more exclusivity. Western Games....true. Hope we can at least get some support.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
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caffeinade said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I'm a genius. A prophet.

Still not gonna read it.

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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
caffeinade said:

Still not gonna read it.

That is why my review:
Fire Emblem: Warriors Review

Is perfect.

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or that your review isnt perfect

it is

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caffeinade said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

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or that your review isnt perfect

it is

I don't need confirmation.

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