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Round or about April 24 as the source said is when Nintendo's report usually comes out, Sony are usually within a couple of days of nintendo and ms usually comes out last I think.



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Nintendo Zealot said:
NJ5 said:
Nintendo - huge profits of course.

Sony - Loss, due to two reasons - fixed expenses taking a toll in relation to the much bigger holiday quarter, and software sales not being enough to cover PS3 hardware losses. $50-200m loss.

Microsoft - around break even point,
$100m profit at most.

Sounds like a pretty good estimate.

 And ist most likley wrong on Sony, as usual.



Nintendo and MIcrosoft already have their reports scheduled for the 24th according to their pages.

Sony usually does it later, it may even be in May (but probably a few days after MS/Nintendo).

Just_Ben said:
Nintendo Zealot said:
NJ5 said:
Nintendo - huge profits of course.

Sony - Loss, due to two reasons - fixed expenses taking a toll in relation to the much bigger holiday quarter, and software sales not being enough to cover PS3 hardware losses. $50-200m loss.

Microsoft - around break even point,
$100m profit at most.

Sounds like a pretty good estimate.

And ist most likley wrong on Sony, as usual.


What's your prediction?

 

 



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Nintendo tops fiscal 2007 Japan numbers

That the 2007 fiscal year was a good year for Nintendo is almost without question, so the results of the sales numbers for hardware platforms and the top five-selling software titles in Japan for the 12 months to March 30, 2008 comes as no surprise.

The best-selling platform was the Nintendo DS, selling over 6.3 million units, followed by the Nintendo Wii on 3.74 million units, according to Famitsu.

The PlayStation Portable was next in line with 3.4 million units sold, while the PlaytStation 3 shifted 1.2 million and the Xbox 360 just over 235,000.

Meanwhile on the software side, the top five games were all for Nintendo platforms, with Wii Fit top, selling 1.76 million copies, Mario Party DS in second with 1.66 million copies and Wii Sports in third selling 1.62 million units.

Super Smash Bros Brawl was fourth, selling 1.55 million copies, with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon selling 1.35 million copies.

In a comparison of the Japanese market from fiscal 2006 to fiscal 2007, combined hardware and software sales showed a 3.8 per cent increase to JPY 677 billion (USD 6.59 billion / EUR 4.23 billion).

Hardware sales ranking (note that the PlayStation 2 was not included):

* 1. Nintendo DS: 6,343,547
* 2. Nintendo Wii: 3,741,946
* 3. PlayStation Portable: 3,427,971
* 4. PlayStation 3: 1,197,418
* 5. Xbox 360: 235,318

Software sales ranking:

* 1. Wii Fit: 1,762,193
* 2. Mario Party DS: 1,659,315
* 3. Wii Sports: 1,616,377
* 4. Super Smash Bros Brawl: 1,554,852
* 5. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: 1,354,447


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Sony to cut production costs further

Sony Corporation has underlined its intention to further cut production costs of its goods and fulfil more orders in an attempt to offset the reductions in export profits caused by the strengthening yen.

The current economic conditions, which have seen the yen make significant gains on the dollar in the past year, could impact the company's ability to offer any further price cuts on the PlayStation 3 in the foreseeable future - a move which spurred significant sales in the final quarter of 2007.

"As to the situation of the US dollar's weakness in the medium to long term, we already have a strategy to deal with it," said Ryoji Chubachi, Sony president, according to MSN Money.

"We will lower our production costs as possible as we can and we will choose production sites to cope with the industry's weakness, and in the short term, we will try to accept more orders."

For every JPY 1 gain versus the US dollar, Sony loses around JPY 6 billion (USD 58.3 million / EUR 37.5 million). In the past year the yen has moved from an exchange rate of 111 to the US dollar, to 102.5 - representing a loss of around JPY 51 billion (USD 496 million / EUR 318 million) for Sony.


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superchunk said:
yep. looking forward to seeing VGChartz validated once again over NPD.

I see all three in black (Gaming only), Nintendo>Sony>MS.

Nintendo is a customer of NPD so it's hard to imagine Nintendo's financial reports validating anyone over them.  Basically Nintendo knows how much of everything was sold to retailers and relies on NPD's numbers for sold to customers (North America obviously).  At least that's my understanding of it.



Interesting about the losses incurred by Sony from the USD weakness, which could make a US price cut more difficult, but over the last year the Euro has slightly strengthened by 1 Yen against JPY from 158.75 to the Euro to 159.75. So x-rates shouldn't be a problem for price cuts in Europe.

This also fits well with what Pachter was saying about Nintendo making sure they had demand supplied in Japan and Europe before US due to lower profit margins on US consoles.



Legend11 said:
superchunk said:
yep. looking forward to seeing VGChartz validated once again over NPD.

I see all three in black (Gaming only), Nintendo>Sony>MS.

Nintendo is a customer of NPD so it's hard to imagine Nintendo's financial reports validating anyone over them. Basically Nintendo knows how much of everything was sold to retailers and relies on NPD's numbers for sold to customers (North America obviously). At least that's my understanding of it.


 However shipment details over a long period (such as a quarter) indicate consumer sales to quite a large degree of accuracy and we know that the numbers are 100% correct. Basically with the information you can get from them they give a better indication of sales to consumers over a long period of time than tracking such as VGC or NPD.

Or at least I think thats how it works.

 

On Topic: Sony & MS - $100M profit.

Ninty - Ridiculous profit. 

 



@ op who on earth would know that information when the financial statements are released on sony, nintendo and microsoft.



Nintendo- Massive profits, great sale of old games(pure profit), WiiFit and SSBB massive sales too, great sales for SMG and TP. Makes a boatload per Wii and DS sold, and they sold a lot of each.

Sony- no major 1st party games, higher than expected HW sales(means more loss) - software sales not good in comparison to hw sales, possibly due to blu ray buyers. A loss, not to huge. But a loss.

Microsoft- making slight amount off each console, good 3rd party sales, no major 1st party sales (except legs for a few games... I can them making a profit this quarter, not a huge one, but a proft.

Also I am pretty sure the DS Lite was released at 129.99 and was making a proft then. I have no figures for this but I believe Nintendo could sell a DS for 79.99 and still make some profit, or a least break even.

The Wii was making 50 dollars per console at launch, I would guess that the profit margin is a LEAST 80-100 now, or more. I think if Nintendo wanted to they could sell the Wii a around 149.99 and break even, or be close to it.



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Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut