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Carl2291 said:

And because this thread has gone off the rails with digs, off topic spam and little aggressions, I'll quote the OP.

Miguel_Zorro said:
  • Please stay on topic.  If a discussion takes a tangent to something completely unrelated, it should probably move over to a new thread of its own.

If you have nothing worthwhile to add then don't post. It's tiresome enough having to go through a hundred posts, but when half of them are adding nothing to discussion it's irritating.

But I was just trying to brighten the mood a little.



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RolStoppable said:

I wasn't refering to you. Kerotan has wrongly accused Acevil and the mod team, but especially me. In every post he mentions my name (and there are many such posts since yesterday), he complains about how I get preferential treatment when it comes to ban lengths, talks about hypocrisy and double standards to paint me in the worst light possible while at the same time he ironically plays up his contributions to the community. One such example is how good of a guy he is because he didn't report tbone51 when tbone sent him a PM to specifically make that request, but that it came so far is because Kerotan repeatedly baited and reported tbone in the months leading up to that.

There is an awful lot of spin or outright wrongness in virtually everything he says, but that's precisely what he is known for and what is dragging threads in the mud. I have called him the root cause for a reason, because he really is always at the center of everything. It doesn't help his case when he points out that other posters' behavior is a reaction to his, because that is acknowledging - intentionally or not - that he is the root cause.

Well, yeah. I have noticed he spins a lot while being extremely strongheaded, which makes him hard to deal with but, I'm not sure that should be a reason to mod him. Some people are more dificult than others, thats just how it is.



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CGI-Quality said:
Just coming to reiterate what Carl just posted. We're moving on from the finger pointing, guys. Let's try to bring it back to Moderations and subjects dealing with them directly.

Roger that.  Just aswell I seen this because I was about to type out an essay in response to previous posts lol. 



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Miguel_Zorro said:

What you and padib are asking for is not a reasonable request.  We're moderators, not psychological counsellors.  It's emotionally straining for the moderators, at times, to deal with some of our most misbehaving members.  Every person here has their life history and their reasons for carrying on the way they do.  To have the mods conduct a personal intervention via ongoing conversation with every troubled user would be incredibly emotionally draining.  I can't say if Smeags actually did that because he went pretty inactive immediately after hiring us.  But how do I know his approach took a toll on him?  Because he 1) Closed this thread and 2) Took a hiatus from the site for over a month, then a few months later he quit the site completely.  It's not sustainable to just have people dump all over you all the time.

Yeah, that is definitely understandable. But to the mods that have let me speak to them when I'm feeling down, I really appreciate it



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Mod Edit ~ CGI



So, I now have all the mods on my friends list, barring Zekkyou (whom I used to have before removing for some reason ) and Trash (who doesn't have any friends). My infiltration of the mod team is almost complete!



RolStoppable said:
I wish I'd get coaching. I am still waiting for a response to the question if calling someone a mooncalf is okay.

If you use it responsibly, sure. Just don't call yourself a mooncalf or it's another ban for you.



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padib said:
RavenXtra said:

Thank God we have a fake mod with an ego problem to set us straight. Is a little bit of fun cutting into your soapbox time?

Holy cow, whittiest post ever.

Miguel_Zorro said:

What you and padib are asking for is not a reasonable request.  We're moderators, not psychological counsellors.  It's emotionally straining for the moderators, at times, to deal with some of our most misbehaving members.  Every person here has their life history and their reasons for carrying on the way they do.  To have the mods conduct a personal intervention via ongoing conversation with every troubled user would be incredibly emotionally draining.  I can't say if Smeags actually did that because he went pretty inactive immediately after hiring us.  But how do I know his approach took a toll on him?  Because he 1) Closed this thread and 2) Took a hiatus from the site for over a month, then a few months later he quit the site completely.  It's not sustainable to just have people dump all over you all the time, and I think it wore him down.

That said, I have PM'd you and tried to coach you.  You don't listen.  So I'll do it here.

You know a lot of people don't like you.  If you truly wanted to turn that around, you'd put in effort to make people forget your past.  That means showing self discipline.  You'd dramatically tone down your posts, and you definitely wouldn't be painting a massive bullseye on yourself by posting in the moderator thread over and over again.  The fact that you do post here so often means you're either completely oblivious to the situation, or you like the attention.   The best way to change perceptions and attitudes towards you would be to law low and be a model poster and to stop going out of your way to keep attention on yourself.  Is there any chance at all that you'll listen though?

I really appreciate this post, honestly.

Smeags' intervetions with me were very creative. For example, and I kept this a secret for years, he once visited me with a secret account with a leprechaun-type avatar and gave me riddles. I somehow knew it was him but it was so fun and so creative, at a time when I was really struggling with my temper on the forums. He made me feel like I could just let it go. It was amazing.

Axum wrote to me once a very thoughtful PM when I was clashing with a user (he is in this thread actually!). It didn't take much more than 1 decently long PM for him to help me see things differently.

Maybe for some users it takes a bit more, I don't honestly know because I don't see all the work you guys do behind the scenes. But for some reason I saw it pass through the seams more in Smeags' era. But if you guys are doing it and you are trying, and it's difficult, then all I can do is encourage you.

And even if I'm not a mod, if ever you guys need help coaching a difficult user that you might be ready to give up on, I wouldn't mind helping out and volunteering in that way. At least I could give it a try and see where it goes and let you guys know, then you could judge the outcome yourselves.

It beats not reading the boards much anymore.

spurgeonryan said:
Padib I think everyone knew who your alt was and we loved happydolphin. 


Anyways, what is the email address for the mod team?

That's really nice of you Spurge. By the way, where are your community-driven threads? VGChartz got Talent for example? Get to it Spurgey.

You among other things made my time on vgchartz very special.

Leprechaun avatar and you didn't suspect me?!  

 

Anyway to the mods responding to me I don't mean messaging people like me everyday saying this post and that post should be a little different.  I mean over a few months if there's something irking you about a poster.  Don't let it annoy you.  Just message them with your suggestions and most times things will improve making you less irritated.  

 

It's clear how much emotional stress this job can cause you so it's to help yourselves in the long run and not just us. 



Come on, mods - are you telling us that moderating really takes a toll on you? I'd do it for free.