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Pyro as Bill on 17 July 2017
vivster said:

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I think it's entirely fair to permaban someone who condones the mass murder of innocents, no matter if he condones it once or a thousand times. He did it once and then even made a thread about it. Why give such a person even the chance to ever use this forum as a platform for hate again?

All freedoms, including freedom of speech, have limits.

He never condoned the holocaust, he denied it happened. How can he support something if he doesn't believe it occurred? It's unfair to accuse him of supporting genocide and accusing the mods of condoning genocide by allowing the thread was a step too far.

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vivster on 18 July 2017
Pyro as Bill said:
vivster said:

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I think it's entirely fair to permaban someone who condones the mass murder of innocents, no matter if he condones it once or a thousand times. He did it once and then even made a thread about it. Why give such a person even the chance to ever use this forum as a platform for hate again?

All freedoms, including freedom of speech, have limits.

He never condoned the holocaust, he denied it happened. How can he support something if he doesn't believe it occurred? It's unfair to accuse him of supporting genocide and accusing the mods of condoning genocide by allowing the thread was a step too far.

Some people believe in all sorts of crazy conspiracies. The holocaust, moon landing, 9-11, mods secretly changing posts or conspiracies about Nintendo fans purposely ignoring Sony's amazing achievements. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8481006

He directly condoned the war of aggression from the Nazis. Which was mass murder of innocents. That statement had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8443923

I don't put words in people's mouths, just stop trying to get me on that.



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vivster on 18 July 2017
spurgeonryan said:
Pyro as Bill said:

He never condoned the holocaust, he denied it happened. How can he support something if he doesn't believe it occurred? It's unfair to accuse him of supporting genocide and accusing the mods of condoning genocide by allowing the thread was a step too far.

Some people believe in all sorts of crazy conspiracies. The holocaust, moon landing, 9-11, mods secretly changing posts or conspiracies about Nintendo fans purposely ignoring Sony's amazing achievements. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8481006

I think Carl once changed one of my posts, but I cannot prove it.

 

Yeah, mods do not usually tolerate any sort of mention of Germans on this site. Every time I mention Germans I get banned.

Try to be German then. My mod history says it all. And just recently they permabanned a fellow German who even tried to flee to Sweden from the mods. Didn't help.



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vivster on 18 July 2017
spurgeonryan said:
I didn't know you were German.

Sorry.

Some people have a higher toll to live with. But I'm managing, somehow.



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vivster on 18 July 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

He directly condoned the war of aggression from the Nazis. Which was mass murder of innocents. That statement had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8443923

I don't put words in people's mouths, just stop trying to get me on that.

How is that different from condoning... pretty much any war ever though?

Are you you suggesting that the War on terror or a war to defend your attacked country are no different from a war of Aggression like the ones committed by Germany or Japan?

I hope you're not.



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Pagan on 18 July 2017

I was living in germany too. Now living in Basel. The war on terror is for sure a different one. If you see war as killing people than yes. All are the same. You have to look at their intentions. That is what differs one war from another. And i have jewish roots. It id forbidden to denial in germany but i dont know how the internet rules are. The armenian genocide denial should also be punished but as long as you start saying that, the nazis are shouting for freedom of speech which is ridicolous because we have seen what nazis really think about freedom of speech between 1939 and 1945.



vivster on 18 July 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

Are you you suggesting that the War on terror or a war to defend your attacked country are no different from a war of Aggression like the ones committed by Germany or Japan?

I hope you're not.

War on terror? You mean the botched invasion of Iraq that created many more terrorists than it stopped? Yes, I do think that's no different than a war of aggression.

A war to defend your country is obviously different though, since the defenders aren't the ones to have started the war, so they clearly can't be blamed for anything.

I was talking more about the actual war on terror like the current one against ISIS and not whatever weird stuff the Americans did in the past.

But nice that you agree that there is a difference between wars and that some wars are not about the slaughter of innocents.



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vivster on 18 July 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

I was talking more about the actual war on terror like the current one against ISIS and not whatever weird stuff the Americans did in the past.

But nice that you agree that there is a difference between wars and that some wars are not about the slaughter of innocents.

Few, if any, are about the slaughter of innocents. Wars are typically about land/resources, the innocents just get slaughtered in the process. That's why I think few if any are justifiable. In fact I think the only reasons people should condone starting wars are if they are independence wars or civil wars.

A lot of independance and civil wars were bullshit. But some bad wars are worse than other bad wars.

Most modern wars have not been about land or resource acquisition. Even that stupid Iraq thing. It's just about defeating objectively bad people.



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vivster on 18 July 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

A lot of independance and civil wars were bullshit. But some bad wars are worse than other bad wars.

Most modern wars have not been about land or resource acquisition. Even that stupid Iraq thing. It's just about defeating objectively bad people.

For that stupid Iraq thing... I'm pretty sure oil is a resource so there was some resource acquisition basis involved in it...

Pretty obvious that nobody really gives a shit about defeating terrible dictators since there are many who are much worse than sadam still out there, but those countries don't have resources so nobody has any incentive to actually start a war.

No. The difference is not resources but the ability or precedence of attacking 1st world countries. It's just that resource rich countries easily breed dictators.



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Aeolus451 on 18 July 2017
vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

How is that different from condoning... pretty much any war ever though?

Are you you suggesting that the War on terror or a war to defend your attacked country are no different from a war of Aggression like the ones committed by Germany or Japan?

I hope you're not.

I don't think it's that clear cut. It depends why a war was started, what lead up to it, how it was fought and the end result if any country could really claim the moral high ground on it. The nazis were plain evil if any side of a war was to called that.