On mobile you don't have good controls, so yes it's inherently shit for the majority of games.

But part of the traditional market don't mind bad controls, so for these people the convenience of mobile will be more important and it's these people that have migrated from dedicated consoles to mobile games. That's part of why mobile is increasing and consoles market has decreaset in recent years. But the majority of console gamers won't go over to mobile games.

And then of course you have all these casuals that had never touched a video game before, who were introduced to Candy Crush and Clash of the Clans and so on. These people are probably 90% of the mobile market now.

All in all, in my eyes the enormous growth of mobile doesn't mean that there is quality.

You can find quality titles on mobile, obviously. As an example, did you forget that a lot of of the old Final Fantasy games are on mobile? Does it mean they were shitty games? If you can put Final Fantasy games on mobile, you can easily create new mobile games close to them.

Hardcore gamers won't go mobile only, but if you consider the number of mobile games in Japan, the quality of some of them and the market/demography changes, it seems normal to at least play a bit on mobile, and keep your console for "more complex" games. But the "consoles=real/good games, mobile=casual/shit games" is becoming more and more wrong (and it's been wrong for a while now already).

Software and hardware targeting the west. PS4 released everywhere else before it released in Japan. The games target western gamers now too.

Yes! 

I know this is gaming related, but the thread title very much applies to the country itself, with an aging population and very low birth rates.

What does it matter, as long as japanese games are made and we support them why should it bother you?

Sony games maybe, but the amount of Japanese games targeted at Japanese easily outweighs that. You know, the games that are completely disregarded by everyone for being just for the Japanese.

Yet they are 99% japanese whos realy dying? 

but.. but.. japanese has superior taste.

KEK

I never said there was quality because of the size of the market. But I do believe as the market grows and the dedicated market shrinks we will see more high quality mobile games as the demand for them increases. And the fact that there are today high quality games on mobile is not debatable. The problem is they're being disregarded because of the misconception that they don't exist.

Controls are not an issue either. It's simply a different platform that needs different control methods. Much like you can't really 1:1 port completely mouse and keyboard driven games on console. For the vast majority of dedicated handheld games you don't even need controller like peripherals because they can be easily used with touch controls. I mean what are the most popular handheld games? Turn based RPGs. Something you can easily do with touch. The more action oriented games are a bit tougher to do but not impossible. It's also not out of the question to simply use controller periphals that clip onto your phone or tablet. I mean people don't mind lugging around an extra device, so why not just the controller part?

Making good mobile games is not as much of an issue as the console conservatives like to think. The problem is that not enough of the audience is there yet because they rather stick to dedicated consoles because that's where most of their games are.

It's a catch 22. But I certainly will not stand by people who proclaim mobile as a platform to be inherently inferior to dedicated handhelds when it's not.