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Barkley said:
onionberry said:

Have you played a main super mario game or a zelda game? this is why those franchise have longevity, because the games have a different tone and feel even if the concept is the same. 

Yes they change, but they still share a lot of the same feel from title to title.

Anyway what I really meant by that is it won't be like a major reboot of their series, the differences won't be colossally larger then the differences have been from generation to generation in the past. I don't see a major overhaul or shift in direction that makes this especially different to previous jumps.

I'd argue that Pokemon did have a sizeable change, given the scope of changes that occured in Sun and Moon (Including the removal of Gym Leaders, which is kind of a big part of the formula). 



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Barkley said:
onionberry said:

Have you played a main super mario game or a zelda game? this is why those franchise have longevity, because the games have a different tone and feel even if the concept is the same. 

Yes they change, but they still share a lot of the same feel from title to title.

Anyway what I really meant by that is it won't be like a major reboot of their series

well, breath of the wild looks like a major reboot of the franchise, the last game with so many changes and added mechanics was a link to the past more than 20 years ago, at least in terms of gameplay it's a reboot. Mario I don't expect a reboot, just a new mechanic and new level design. 



onionberry said:

well, breath of the wild looks like a major reboot of the franchise, the last game with so many changes and added mechanics was a link to the past more than 20 years ago, at least in terms of gameplay it's a reboot. Mario I don't expect a reboot, just a new mechanic and new level design. 

Yeah Breath of the Wild does look like quite the departure, we'll have to see just how deep some of the new mechanics go. Though Link Between Worlds was also quite a big change with it's rental system and non-linear dungeons also. But yeah that's just one title, and considering we're probably getting enhanced versions of Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon, I'm just not sure how it can be viewed as a Rebirth. We're getting more of the usual Nintendo experiences, and that's not a bad thing.

But maybe I'm just thinking about it differently.

Also you look nice in glasses!



Barkley said:
onionberry said:

well, breath of the wild looks like a major reboot of the franchise, the last game with so many changes and added mechanics was a link to the past more than 20 years ago, at least in terms of gameplay it's a reboot. Mario I don't expect a reboot, just a new mechanic and new level design. 

Yeah Breath of the Wild does look like quite the departure, we'll have to see just how deep some of the new mechanics go. Though Link Between Worlds was also quite a big change with it's rental system and non-linear dungeons also. But yeah that's just one title, and considering we're probably getting enhanced versions of Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon, I'm just not sure how it can be viewed as a Rebirth. We're getting more of the usual Nintendo experiences, and that's not a bad thing.

But maybe I'm just thinking about it differently.

Also you look nice in glasses!

I again bring up Sun and Moon, and perhaps we'll see more of the rebirth theme at the event. Will Mario reach the same levels of build up that Pokemon and Zelda got, with hype and new and changed features?



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Barkley said:
onionberry said:

well, breath of the wild looks like a major reboot of the franchise, the last game with so many changes and added mechanics was a link to the past more than 20 years ago, at least in terms of gameplay it's a reboot. Mario I don't expect a reboot, just a new mechanic and new level design. 

 

Also you look nice in glasses!

thank you! they're real prescription glasses btw, i'm not just trying to be hipster...although I am, sometimes, not all the time....lol



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KrspaceT said:
Barkley said:

Yeah Breath of the Wild does look like quite the departure, we'll have to see just how deep some of the new mechanics go. Though Link Between Worlds was also quite a big change with it's rental system and non-linear dungeons also. But yeah that's just one title, and considering we're probably getting enhanced versions of Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon, I'm just not sure how it can be viewed as a Rebirth. We're getting more of the usual Nintendo experiences, and that's not a bad thing.

But maybe I'm just thinking about it differently.

Also you look nice in glasses!

I again bring up Sun and Moon, and perhaps we'll see more of the rebirth theme at the event. Will Mario reach the same levels of build up that Pokemon and Zelda got, with hype and new and changed features?

I don't think the "rebirth" feel will be stronger then previous generations. I don't see what's so special about this in relation to every previous generational change for Nintendo that makes this a rebirth.



Disney's "rebirth" was on the back of completely new properties that were evolved to 90s sensibilities ... The Little Mermaid, Beauty & The Beast, The Lion King, Aladdin, etc. not Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck and Snow White.

Nintendo is still relying mostly the same group of 30+ year old franchises from the looks of things.



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Soundwave said:

Disney's "rebirth" was on the back of completely new properties that were evolved to 90s sensibilities ... The Little Mermaid, Beauty & The Beast, The Lion King, Aladdin, etc. not Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck and Snow White.

Nintendo is still relying mostly the same group of 30+ year old franchises from the looks of things.

DC is doing so with characters from the 30's and 50's, and I think you missed the fact that in trailer prominence it went something like this

 

Zelda > Splatoon > Mario

 

Yes, I remember Splatoon on the N.E.S. It was better then, though I was fond of the Gamecube version that came out to mixed reception at the time



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KrspaceT said:
Soundwave said:

Disney's "rebirth" was on the back of completely new properties that were evolved to 90s sensibilities ... The Little Mermaid, Beauty & The Beast, The Lion King, Aladdin, etc. not Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck and Snow White.

Nintendo is still relying mostly the same group of 30+ year old franchises from the looks of things.

DC is doing so with characters from the 30's and 50's, and I think you missed the fact that in trailer prominence it went something like this

 

Zelda > Splatoon > Mario

 

Yes, I remember Splatoon on the N.E.S. It was better then, though I was fond of the Gamecube version that came out to mixed reception at the time

Splatoon is the only one really doing something new. If Nintendo can create 2-3 more Splatoons sure, they might have something, but as of right now I'd say no. 

A year ago if told this board that the NX was a tablet form factor device that doubles as a home console, using what looks like a downclocked Tegra X1 chip (the same thing in the Nvidia Shield microconsole) with swappable controller sides, this forum, especially the Nintendo fans would've melted down in dissapointment. No seperate home console. No AMD Polaris. No new wonder controller gimmick. 

I said this months ago too, all Nintendo would have to do is show a trailer with like 10 seconds of new Mario and Nintendo fans would come running back, but the concept itself is kinda dry. It basically is a repackaged version of the Wii U concept in many ways, the next step of the Wii U design was to make the tablet itself fully portable rather than half portable and that's basically what the Switch is. 

It's a reverse Wii U, instead of the chipset being inside the console, and the controller being a "dummy" (no hardware) device, it's just flipped around, the tablet now has the hardware, the "dock" is just a "dummy" device (HDMI pass through). But because it is portable, it means it can sell to Nintendo's 3DS audience base, which is the real significant change.