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Nuvendil on 26 January 2017
xl-klaudkil said:
Nuvendil said:

Actually, I think that will depend on the demand they see.  If they see the Pro being a fairly niche product appealing only to those who really, really want the most premium experience and developers only use it for polish rather than substantial improvements, I image they will not bother to up the production much and just let the Scorpio run aground on the exact same rocks as the Pro.  Not to say the Pro isn't doing well enough to justify its existence and make money, but if it's going to be a fairly small subset of the PS4 installbase, the same will likely be the case for the Scorpio and if that's the case, Sony has little to be concerned with.

Sony doesn't  need to concern themselves  even if switch and scorpio will be a success. 

 

The ps4's lineup  is unbeatable. 

A60mill headstart is unbeatable (70 when scorpio launches) 

Well the PS4 line has nothing to fear from the Switch, thats for sure.  If anyone has something to fear it's MS.  Cause the Xbone has already been losing the primary console position race and canceling, shelving, and delaying to oblivion their exclusives is doing them no favors in the secondary console event.  So the Xbox One line is vulnerable.



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Rob5VGC on 26 January 2017

Holy crap! KH 1.5+2.5 is at #22. Well, Media Create reported last week that pre-orders for 1.5+2.5 increased after 2.8 released, so this shouldn't come as a surprise.

2.8 LE is at #7. Nice.



GribbleGrunger on 26 January 2017

11 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#10 PS4s UC4 Bundle (up 3)
#37 NES (up 10)
#52 PS4Pro (down 3)
#54 XB1s-500gb Battlefield Bundle (down 3)
#79 NiS (up 15)*
#95 XB1s-500gb Minecraft Bundle (down 3)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)**
#05 NiS Breath Of The Wild (same)
#12 Mario Kart Delux (up 2)
#75 PS4 Digimon World (up 6)

PS4: 2 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
XB1: 2 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
NiS:  1 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5

Does not affect this month: *
Software outside of the month only gets added if it's in the top 20: **



 

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JRPGfan on 26 January 2017
Bandorr said:
$400 PS4 Pro outdoing $264 xbox one.

It doesn't even have the two games that are being bundled at best buy.

Yeap PS4 takes this month by a big margin.



Intrinsic on 26 January 2017
Bandorr said:
So here is a question for the people in the thread - how do you see this year breaking down?

I'm thinking the first two go for the PS4.
Last two(as of now) for XB1 (scorpio).
March and april for Switch.

Not sure about the other 6 months. So based on what we know right now (and sales we can guess at) how would you fill in those 12 months?

I see the first two going to PS4..... and everything else going to the NS. Don't forget that this is its first holiday. And I see people are already making the same mistakes withe the scorpio that they made with teh PS4pro. Its not going to sell nearly as much as some seem to think its gonna sell.



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JRPGfan on 26 January 2017
Intrinsic said:
Bandorr said:
So here is a question for the people in the thread - how do you see this year breaking down?

I'm thinking the first two go for the PS4.
Last two(as of now) for XB1 (scorpio).
March and april for Switch.

Not sure about the other 6 months. So based on what we know right now (and sales we can guess at) how would you fill in those 12 months?

I see the first two going to PS4..... and everything else going to the NS. Don't forget that this is its first holiday. And I see people are already making the same mistakes withe the scorpio that they made with teh PS4pro. Its not going to sell nearly as much as some seem to think its gonna sell.

I dont expect the NS to sell 18m this year (nintendo are only makeing 9m this first year right?).

I expect that from the PS4 (18m+ sales)... maybe the USA is a huuuuge part of nintendo's world wide sales? and in the US it might be close all year long?

However I dont expect that, I think the PS4 will put up a fight.



GribbleGrunger on 26 January 2017
Intrinsic said:

I see the first two going to PS4..... and everything else going to the NS. Don't forget that this is its first holiday. And I see people are already making the same mistakes withe the scorpio that they made with teh PS4pro. Its not going to sell nearly as much as some seem to think its gonna sell.

Don't underestimate a false 'next gen' narrative. All it takes is for a couple of XB1 devs to talk in those terms and the fans run with it on social media, leaving MS to just shrug and pretend they never said that. Having scanned through the GAF DF thread, I can tell you MANY XB1 owners are already arguing it's a 'next gen' console. It's not set in stone but the masons are readying their chizels.



 

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Jranation on 26 January 2017
JRPGfan said:
Intrinsic said:

I see the first two going to PS4..... and everything else going to the NS. Don't forget that this is its first holiday. And I see people are already making the same mistakes withe the scorpio that they made with teh PS4pro. Its not going to sell nearly as much as some seem to think its gonna sell.

I dont expect the NS to sell 18m this year (nintendo are only makeing 9m this first year right?).

I expect that from the PS4 (18m+ sales)... maybe the USA is a huuuuge part of nintendo's world wide sales? and in the US it might be close all year long?

However I dont expect that, I think the PS4 will put up a fight.

By 18m in WW or just in the US? 



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JRPGfan on 26 January 2017
Jranation said:
JRPGfan said:

I dont expect the NS to sell 18m this year (nintendo are only makeing 9m this first year right?).

I expect that from the PS4 (18m+ sales)... maybe the USA is a huuuuge part of nintendo's world wide sales? and in the US it might be close all year long?

However I dont expect that, I think the PS4 will put up a fight.

By 18m in WW or just in the US? 

PS4 18m ww. (my estimation of sales) (17.4m last year? and 2017 is the PS4's peak year imo, so it ll be more)

NS 9m ww first year (nintendo estimation?) (something about screen orders).

I dont see nintendo winning everything after its release all year long.



GribbleGrunger on 26 January 2017
JRPGfan said:

PS4 18m ww. (my estimation of sales) (17.4m last year? and 2017 is the PS4's peak year imo, so it ll be more)

NS 9m ww first year (nintendo estimation?) (something about screen orders).

I dont see nintendo winning everything after its release all year long.

I can't get 100% behind a statement like this. We can't bottle success and guarentee success to anyone that drinks it but we do know that some bottles do contain success. I believe in 'trends' above every other means of assessment, and that requires time and patience. I think it's best to hold off making assumptions until we have enough data to at least consider a 'probability'.

in short: Let's wait and see. I DO see many indications that Nintendo are doubling down on 'retaining' stalwort Nintendo fans and that could lead to an unsuccessful console when viewed from a wider spectrum, but from Nintendo's perspective it could also be seen as a success.



 

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