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deskpro2k3 said:
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You just admit about battlefield online activity.. now how about gears of war 4, or titanfall and many others with long match making times. Am I suppose to be impressed with 2 games going over 100k players? what am I pulling out of my ass now? Now you want to boast about how big steam userbase is.. I don't see anything to boast about when the majority of them only care about playing counter-strike and Dota 2.

Look, I got no probs with free online, all I said was I don't find it to be a good selling point anymore. but the fact of the matter remains, if you want fast match making at any given time, you'll find it on consoles whether it is free or not. Why is this truth so hard to understand?

I have a pretty hard time findin actual statistics for any game but without any evidence I refuse to believe activity is lower on PC. The community may prefer other games but it isn't like every game on PC is dead. Steam is the noly platform with some stats, there are right now half a millione playing CS and 100k people playing GTA 5. That's more than enough to find a full lobby any time of the day. Titanfall isn't listed there, that's on Origin. Maybe EA should finally bring their games to steam again, that would bring up player count for sure.

Then there's the fact that many titles support cross-play. I can play with playstation users in Street Fighter 5, no problem. Gears of War 4 also supports Cross-Play, even if just for Co-Op. But it really isn't too much use to discuss the whole topic without some actual numbers. All I can say is, I never had any problems in that regard on PC. Not with brand new games, not with niche titles, not even with really really old games. I mean you don't need a million people for an online community to be alive. 10k is more than enough. There are more than 100 titles with such a player count on steam alone.

Oh, wait, I found some numbers! Battlefield 1 is right now played by 34k people on PC, 33k people on X1 and 87k people on PS4. So indeed more than double the player base on PS4, but I doubt that makes a huge difference, with 30k players you will find a match any time of the day. Also the PC surpasses the player base on X1 where online gaming isn't free. On to BF4, 10k players on PC, 10k on PS3, 2k on 360, 5k on X1, 12k on PS4. Not really a too big difference. 

Can't find stats for Titanfall, but I doubt it's that big of a difference. We only saw actual numbers from the PC version and yes, those were really bad. But that doesn't mean that there are a whole lot more players on consoles.



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OdinHades said:
deskpro2k3 said:
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You just admit about battlefield online activity.. now how about gears of war 4, or titanfall and many others with long match making times. Am I suppose to be impressed with 2 games going over 100k players? what am I pulling out of my ass now? Now you want to boast about how big steam userbase is.. I don't see anything to boast about when the majority of them only care about playing counter-strike and Dota 2.

Look, I got no probs with free online, all I said was I don't find it to be a good selling point anymore. but the fact of the matter remains, if you want fast match making at any given time, you'll find it on consoles whether it is free or not. Why is this truth so hard to understand?

I have a pretty hard time findin actual statistics for any game but without any evidence I refuse to believe activity is lower on PC. The community may prefer other games but it isn't like every game on PC is dead. Steam is the noly platform with some stats, there are right now half a millione playing CS and 100k people playing GTA 5. That's more than enough to find a full lobby any time of the day. Titanfall isn't listed there, that's on Origin. Maybe EA should finally bring their games to steam again, that would bring up player count for sure.

Then there's the fact that many titles support cross-play. I can play with playstation users in Street Fighter 5, no problem. Gears of War 4 also supports Cross-Play, even if just for Co-Op. But it really isn't too much use to discuss the whole topic without some actual numbers. All I can say is, I never had any problems in that regard on PC. Not with brand new games, not with niche titles, not even with really really old games. I mean you don't need a million people for an online community to be alive. 10k is more than enough. There are more than 100 titles with such a player count on steam alone.

Oh, wait, I found some numbers! Battlefield 1 is right now played by 34k people on PC, 33k people on X1 and 87k people on PS4. So indeed more than double the player base on PS4, but I doubt that makes a huge difference, with 30k players you will find a match any time of the day. Also the PC surpasses the player base on X1 where online gaming isn't free. On to BF4, 10k players on PC, 10k on PS3, 2k on 360, 5k on X1, 12k on PS4. Not really a too big difference. 

Can't find stats for Titanfall, but I doubt it's that big of a difference. We only saw actual numbers from the PC version and yes, those were really bad. But that doesn't mean that there are a whole lot more players on consoles.

 

all right, I concur it's healthy but it could be better for some other games. I think it depends on where the fanbase for those particular games are.



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deskpro2k3 said:
Pemalite said:

Yes we do need to constantly remind you. We are the Master Race. All your games are belong to us.

 

out of all that stuff you posted, and that giant list of free to play MMOs, only one game interest me. Star Citizen (currently a backer)

Good thing I own gaming consoles too, that should make me above the master race. Yeah, God Gamer Race. we should remind you peepz that only own one platform.

And I need to remind you, like last time (because last time you didn't reply when asked about owning all the systems, to actually be credited as a "god gamer"), that to be a god gamer, you need to actually own and play on all the platforms, not just 1-2. Also last gen and further back. AVGN would be considered a god gamer, since he actually does own so many systems, that it would put most here to shame.

I think it's good to have someone like Permalite, reminding others that the platform isn't cruddy or worth crap (single game, amarite?). 



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Chazore said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

out of all that stuff you posted, and that giant list of free to play MMOs, only one game interest me. Star Citizen (currently a backer)

Good thing I own gaming consoles too, that should make me above the master race. Yeah, God Gamer Race. we should remind you peepz that only own one platform.

And I need to remind you, like last time (because last time you didn't reply when asked about owning all the systems, to actually be credited as a "god gamer"), that to be a god gamer, you need to actually own and play on all the platforms, not just 1-2. Also last gen and further back. AVGN would be considered a god gamer, since he actually does own so many systems, that it would put most here to shame.

I think it's good to have someone like Permalite, reminding others that the platform isn't cruddy or worth crap (single game, amarite?). 

 

I don't need to prove to you anything, so believe what you want. "master race" and "god gamer" is all a freaking joke. I don't think Permalite is doing the platform any justice for taking that joke to heart. Just to set this straight, all it takes is for you to like to play games regardless of the platform.



deskpro2k3 said:

I don't need to prove to you anything, so believe what you want. "master race" and "god gamer" is all a freaking joke. I don't think Permalite is doing the platform any justice.

Actually, you do. I don't take your word for a second in saying that you own all platforms. You didn't answer me the last time and you're doing the same again. You just prove that you're full of it in the end, and that you desperately want to show up the other guy, because you think you're doing the right thing, when in reality, you're just acting the pot calling the kettle black.

 

You're right, PCMR is a joke. One started by Yahtzee croshaw 8 years ago. God gamer being another joke that spawned from PCMR as well.

It doesn't matter if you think he is or he isn't. What he's doing is pointing out lists of games, what is a fact (outside of PCMR jesting) and what isn't. He's far more level headed than myself and far more knowledgeable than you and myself included.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Kerotan said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Of course it is, many of us realized about it time ago, but your data is wrong, the word "exclusive" is completely false going by those numbers.

I'm sorry but most Playstation gamers have been kept satisfied enough to not switch to PC.  In fact most of my R6 and BF buddies are ex pc heads. 

Your friends are not the norm, I only see people constatly switching to PC, I'm glad you are happy with your PS4 but many of us saw:

- "Free" internet for multiplayer
- Huge catalogue with eternal retrocompatibility
- Steam sales  (that can make a 60$ game be like...15?)
- Better performance, graphics and scalability options
- Upgradable hardware
- Huge Mod scene
- Almost every multiplatform 
- Keyboard and mouse configuration (the best by far to play any first person game, simulator, RTS or graphic adventure)
- Good exclusives (Civilization VI, Cities Skyline, Pillars of Earth, Grim Dawn...)
- Best and most varied selection of indies (including exclusive diamonds like Owlboy or Undertales)

Is hard to come back from that imo, but everyone is happy with different things.



Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn if a good PC games is exclusive or not.

If it is the best version, that's good enough for me to prefer that version over others.



Chazore said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I don't need to prove to you anything, so believe what you want. "master race" and "god gamer" is all a freaking joke. I don't think Permalite is doing the platform any justice.

Actually, you do. I don't take your word for a second in saying that you own all platforms. You didn't answer me the last time and you're doing the same again. You just prove that you're full of it in the end, and that you desperately want to show up the other guy, because you think you're doing the right thing, when in reality, you're just acting the pot calling the kettle black.

 

You're right, PCMR is a joke. One started by Yahtzee croshaw 8 years ago. God gamer being another joke that spawned from PCMR as well.

It doesn't matter if you think he is or he isn't. What he's doing is pointing out lists of games, what is a fact (outside of PCMR jesting) and what isn't. He's far more level headed than myself and far more knowledgeable than you and myself included.

 

you really have low standards. anyways I'll oblige to your request, I'll show you my consoles tonight, I'm at work. but after that you'll have to change your sig and avatar to my choosing. deal? it's only fair.