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VGPolyglot said:
Hapuc12 said:

You prove to me god Doesn't exist then.

We have Bible,Quran,Torah etc etc.

Lol "we have" like we are in a war.

But for real prove to me god doesn't exist.

The Bible, Quran and Torah were creatred by humans. If we're using that as proof, should we consider the events of the Lord of the Rings as historical?

What ever floats you boat you can use what ever you want to belive it is still a belief not matter what.



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Hapuc12 said:
VGPolyglot said:

The Bible, Quran and Torah were creatred by humans. If we're using that as proof, should we consider the events of the Lord of the Rings as historical?

What ever floats you boat you can use what ever you want to belive it is still a belief not matter what.

The big question is, why do you believe what you believe? One persona may believe that the world is flat and the other round, but that doesn't mean each claim has equal validity.



VGPolyglot said:
Hapuc12 said:

What do you mean there was no before you cant say there was nothing before there must be something before there must have been something to create that matter

Where all the atomic matter came from in order for the Big Bang to start.

Well, show us proof that therre was something before.

God was before Big bang,and he Created the universe because he wanted, an he saw that it was good.



Hapuc12 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, show us proof that therre was something before.

God was before Big bang,and he Created the universe because he wanted, an he saw that it was good.

Well, that begs the question: how did God come into being? Did he create himself? How does that make any sense? Why, out of the vast space that exists, did he choose humans as his chosen race out of everything? The fact that those books are so biased towards humans kind of shows that it is a human product.



Hapuc12 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, show us proof that therre was something before.

God was before Big bang,and he Created the universe because he wanted, an he saw that it was good.

And who created god?



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VGPolyglot said:
Hapuc12 said:

What ever floats you boat you can use what ever you want to belive it is still a belief not matter what.

The big question is, why do you believe what you believe? One persona may believe that the world is flat and the other round, but that doesn't mean each claim has equal validity.

Because in the end of the day it's better to believe in something and be afraid of something even if it doesn't exist,then to believe in nothing because when you believe in nothing what is stoping you from comiting suicide,go kill someone when you know you will die in the end and nothing will happen to you you won't answer for your sins etc etc no morals in the world.Oh wait we are already living in that world.



VGPolyglot said:
Hapuc12 said:

God was before Big bang,and he Created the universe because he wanted, an he saw that it was good.

Well, that begs the question: how did God come into being? Did he create himself? How does that make any sense? Why, out of the vast space that exists, did he choose humans as his chosen race out of everything? The fact that those books are so biased towards humans kind of shows that it is a human product.

I don't have an answer to why did god created us maybe he saw something in human race and no one ever said there is only Human Race in this Cosmos.

Maybe god has something planed for us.



Hapuc12 said:
setsunatenshi said:

TIME and SPACE were created at the moment of the big bang. If there is no time and space, there's no before. There's also no Up, no Down, no Left, no Right, no North, no South.... 

When you reach the north pole, and you try to go north, in which direction do you go? 

What do you mean there was no before you cant say there was nothing before there must be something before there must have been something to create that matter

Where all the atomic matter came from in order for the Big Bang to start.

I told you the answer, now if you want details you need to educate yourself on the very basics of the big bang theory. There is the entire of the internet at your fingertips so you can easily confirm what I just told you is the current accepted model for the begining of the universe.

If time started at the big bang, there is no before. Why would all the atomic matter need to come from anywhere in order for the big bang to have happened? Time linearity is a law of nature that we perceive from being inside the universe. You can't assume what the laws of physics may or may not be in any possible multiverse since all you can observe is this universe we exist.

This is a really complex subject and I find it extremely arrogant that someone would expect the answer to the origins of the universe to be simple and easily grasped without putting any effort to it. Positing a 'god' that created the universe would simply make things even more complicated because then you would need to ask who created that god.

And if you say 'there was nothing before god', then just replace god by universe and you have your answer. Why do you feel there should have been something before the universe but nothing before this 'god'?

No need to reply, just take these comments and really think about them honestly. It can be overwhelming for someone to admit that actually they don't have a good answer when they previously they could say 'god did it'.

Just know that the reason why the current accepted model for the origins of the universe is the big bang theory because it explains really well why the universe is the way it is. It explains the cosmic microwave background radiation and why the universe keeps expanding. These are observable facts, not shit people make up or wrote in old books. 



Nanaki said:
Hapuc12 said:

God was before Big bang,and he Created the universe because he wanted, an he saw that it was good.

And who created god?

Doesn't matter who created god but what matters is that god created this universe or maybe he's from another Plane or other Universe that Atheists like to say exists.



setsunatenshi said:
Hapuc12 said:

What do you mean there was no before you cant say there was nothing before there must be something before there must have been something to create that matter

Where all the atomic matter came from in order for the Big Bang to start.

I told you the answer, now if you want details you need to educate yourself on the very basics of the big bang theory. There is the entire of the internet at your fingertips so you can easily confirm what I just told you is the current accepted model for the begining of the universe.

If time started at the big bang, there is no before. Why would all the atomic matter need to come from anywhere in order for the big bang to have happened? Time linearity is a law of nature that we perceive from being inside the universe. You can't assume what the laws of physics may or may not be in any possible multiverse since all you can observe is this universe we exist.

This is a really complex subject and I find it extremely arrogant that someone would expect the answer to the origins of the universe to be simple and easily grasped without putting any effort to it. Positing a 'god' that created the universe would simply make things even more complicated because then you would need to ask who created that god.

And if you say 'there was nothing before god', then just replace god by universe and you have your answer. Why do you feel there should have been something before the universe but nothing before this 'god'?

No need to reply, just take these comments and really think about them honestly. It can be overwhelming for someone to admit that actually they don't have a good answer when they previously they could say 'god did it'.

Just know that the reason why the current accepted model for the origins of the universe is the big bang theory because it explains really well why the universe is the way it is. It explains the cosmic microwave background radiation and why the universe keeps expanding. These are observable facts, not shit people make up or wrote in old books. 

Big bang until they prove to me how from nothing came everything and where all the atomic matter came from in order for the Big Bang to start they are never gonna be right.

Yes but our Scientists are so right that even Hawking said that multiverse is crap and converted to deism.