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Final-Fan on 25 December 2016
Baalzamon said:
The vgc must be trying to eliminate super long quotes with the 2 quote thing...lame.

You guys just noticed this?  I noticed it on maybe my first day back. 



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Final-Fan on 25 December 2016
Baalzamon said:
Linkzmax said:

Why? :P

Just wanted to reference this out to you guys. I'm assuming Zero deleted the inner quote on purpose, because it very clearly shows how it isn't meant to be answered.

Hey Baalz how did you even get the idea that he had done this?  When you look at the post in question it's clearly there. 
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8214015

zero129 19 hours ago
Linkzmax said:
Baalzamon said:

Don't ask why. Running an experiment here, interested if I can get town reads from more people for the same thing.

Why? :P

Was this ever answered i cant find it?

(Above quote was of course created by manually inserting a table and copy pasting)



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Final-Fan on 25 December 2016

To be honest I am not liking the clarity of thought either of you is putting on display. But don't feel too bad, Baalz, you have a higher bar to clear.



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Stefl1504 on 25 December 2016
Final-Fan said:
Stefl1504 said:

What do you mean by that?

Have you read all the posts up to that one? 

Eh, yes, but I still don't get how that would make me a two-for-one investigation? As in, I really am not sure if I understood the meaning of the word combination that was used in the quote for which I asked that.



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Final-Fan on 25 December 2016
Stefl1504 said:
Final-Fan said:

Have you read all the posts up to that one? 

Eh, yes, but I still don't get how that would make me a two-for-one investigation? As in, I really am not sure if I understood the meaning of the word combination that was used in the quote for which I asked that.

"We think you are on the same team, whether that team is town or scum" }==}} "Investigating you is like a two for one deal"
In what way is the thought process behind going from one statement to the other less than completely clear? 



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Stefl1504 on 25 December 2016
Final-Fan said:
Stefl1504 said:

Eh, yes, but I still don't get how that would make me a two-for-one investigation? As in, I really am not sure if I understood the meaning of the word combination that was used in the quote for which I asked that.

"We think you are on the same team, whether that team is town or scum" }==}} "Investigating you is like a two for one deal"
In what way is the thought process behind going from one statement to the other less than completely clear? 

Okay, so I wasn't misunderstanding things, but while unlikely Mr.Ps role could be a variation of rolecop for scum... so while his role is confirmed he is in no way 100% town in my book, more like 95%, but I can see how you would think that if I am scum he must be scum.

Okay, so, in other things:

I am really unsure who to go for today, most of the stuff I see is either bickering over details (baalz vs zero) or doesn't give me a solid read to go from.

I am also wondering why nobody asked who I even targeted and why - everybody just seems happy with the claim that I got no result.

I still don't get how people can see Arm as scum, but maybe I am missing something crucial and I am just blind in his regard. My current hunch would be platina, but my hunch was oh-so-wrong yesterDay and I could see myself get behind a Blade or zero lynch at this point...

Linkz I am quite unsure about, prof is prolly town, axum is too ellusive right now (though he fits his towny self, which isn't too much in his case), ToS I think is town, probably most of all the people I mentioned so far besides mr.p - so that leaves me with FF, baalz and noctis for a round-up to fill in my current blanks...

hmmm....

Vote: Platina

might as well take the freedom to place that delicious vote

(also the OP wasn't updated with spurges lynch)



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Clyde32 on 25 December 2016

Was wondering if I should update every death or just every lynch. That answers that question.

 

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Put your votes on a separate line and in bold, if not in this format they will not be counted.

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. 

Player L6 L5 L4 L3 L2 L1 Lynch
platina stefl1504            
arminillo platina final-fan   Noctis_NoX        
zero129 baalzamon            

 

History:

noctis votes mr. p
blade votes noctis
platina votes arminillo
final-fan votes arminillo
noctis unvotes
noctis votes arminillo
blade unvotes
baalz votes zero
stefl votes platina



Linkzmax on 25 December 2016
Final-Fan said:

(I think it's a town role because of the way it can act as a backup recorder to investigative abilities, so that the info can go to more than one of the town.  And for example if a cop investigates someone, that info can still get to town even if he dies that night if the journalist was there.  For mafia, it would still be somewhat powerful, since it would be a limited kind of role-cop ability (working only on abilities that get feedback from the moderator), and would tell them who is being investigated by the townie in question for investigative roles.  But it wouldn't be as ... interesting of a power for mafia to have, or that is how it seems to me.  I just don't see a mod putting together a game and saying "this really makes sense as a power to give to mafia".) 

P.S.  In a game with a journalist, don't expect a deputy. 

I agree that it's quite likely a town role, but I think it'd be fairly weak as a mafia role depending on the setup. If there aren't a lot of investigative roles, it's often going to return nothing, and even if they do hit one they're very likely not going to gain any info that scum wouldn't already be aware of. Taking the flip/claims of this game for example; getting "lucky" and targeting the same target as spurge would mean nothing, and learning that there's a double vote enabler would be news except it's something that'd come to light anyway. They would have had to target miz and miz would've had to target a town power role to gain any useable knowledge. The only significant upside to it is it's practically a confirmed town role, so a mod might be cruel and give it to mafia.

As for the role meta, are you talking about a deputy for the psychic or for a cop?

Final-Fan said:
Stefl1504 said:

Eh, yes, but I still don't get how that would make me a two-for-one investigation? As in, I really am not sure if I understood the meaning of the word combination that was used in the quote for which I asked that.

"We think you are on the same team, whether that team is town or scum" }==}} "Investigating you is like a two for one deal"
In what way is the thought process behind going from one statement to the other less than completely clear? 

It's not fully a two for one investigation. A scum scan would depend on the actual role flip to completely incriminate the other. A town scan would indicate the other is 95+%(to steal from Stefl) likely to also be town.



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Linkzmax on 25 December 2016
Stefl1504 said:
@Linkz, I think I have always been way better scum than town though. 

I don't remember asking something to illicit this. Is this where I said you've usually been one of the more active scumhunters? I was looking for input on Trucks' activity/ability when he was town.



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Linkzmax on 25 December 2016
zero129 said:

Stefl1504 said:

[snip]

I still don't get how people can see Arm as scum, but maybe I am missing something crucial and I am just blind in his regard. My current hunch would be platina, but my hunch was oh-so-wrong yesterDay and I could see myself get behind a Blade or zero lynch at this point...

Linkz I am quite unsure about, prof is prolly town, axum is too ellusive right now (though he fits his towny self, which isn't too much in his case), ToS I think is town, probably most of all the people I mentioned so far besides mr.p - so that leaves me with FF, baalz and noctis for a round-up to fill in my current blanks...

hmmm....

Vote: Platina

might as well take the freedom to place that delicious vote

(also the OP wasn't updated with spurges lynch)

Unvote:

Vote:Stefl

Platina is so far my number 1 town read. Also you never even gave a reason for voting him.

This vote and your fluffy post is every bit as bad as your scum play last game. Your also willing to lynch (If what i think he is soft claiming) cop type role by saying you would be ok with lynching blade..

I think the is a high chance your scum. I didnt buy your claim from day 1 but Mr.P made it a bit more believeable. Bu then he could be in on it also...

Blade is almost counterclaiming Stefl. I think Stefl's reaction is more town-like than Blade's non-reaction to Stefl's claim yesterDay.



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