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Final-Fan said:
theprof00 said:
Final Fan, do you know what a policy lynch is?

I would consider a policy lynch lynching someone due to their behavior without trying to make a judgment on whether they are actually scum.  For instance, "He is a lurker, therefore lynch him because lynch all lurkers."  The policy is "lynch all lurkers" and this is a policy lynch. 

zero129 seems to define it as a "lynch for no reason", or perhaps a lynch "for the sake of lynching".  "We want to lynch someone today, pick someone at random and lynch them":  zero129's idea of a policy lynch as I interpret it from what he said.  The policy is "we should lynch someone", I guess. 

The definition that seems like it should be compatible between the two of us is "A lynch that a player is willing to do regardless of whether they think the target is scum, based on a policy e.g. "lynch all lurkers", "always lynch on Day 1", etc."

Policy lynches can also refer to players, like, i want to lynch zero because I hate him. :D

I just thought it was interesting that you asked a question you already knew the answer to.



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BladeSymphony said:

You make some good points. I think it would just be rather easy for mafia to play differently or side with town to blend in, and perhaps throw their teammates under the bus, which is a strategy that could throw town off.

I suppose a lynch that could provide some information is better than no lynch at all. Based on my gut, and the fact that he was the first lynch vote with no actual reasoning and it just seems fairly random.

Vote: Trucks

Better mafia players will definitely exhibit different behavior like you describe to hide from the noose. I think it's harder to keep up the act the more Days/lynches there are though, so in that regard a No Lynch is an easy out for mafia to have nothing to answer to for a Day.



Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:
hmm I'm actually gunna buck the trend here and say I think zero is showing some of his town behavior.

How are you bucking the trend? Up until FF, nobody actually said anything about zero being scummy, and nobody has after either.

Did you mean to unvote with this statement by the way, or were you on board as a policy lynch so this revelation about his alignment has no bearing anyway?

I'm a lazy kinda guy and unvoting is such a hassle. I'll remove it when I have to, I kinda like when he's under pressure also because I think he notices some things that I don't.



spurgeonryan said:
I know he will try harder this time if scum so it is hard to say anything so soon.

I do not remember him ever being likethis before, but after the last few games I see where he is coming from. But just bexcuse zero is wild, does not mean he alone is responsible for any lose or win. In fact, last game other than being scum, he really was not responsible for anything. Neither was Mr.P fully responsible for the loss.

People keep saying who the best person to lynch go the sake of town is, yet those same people lost too.

For this instance we could just vote Arminilio since he is doing the same type of stuff Darwin was. Is he new, is he just playing, what?

Back to trucks. He is playing different.

the way darwin played and the way arminillo is playing is different. darwin basically just made excuses, with the majority of excuses being that he was new and confused. Arminillo seems to be actively trying to participate.(plus I think he mistakenly softclaimed for the purpose of "being helpful")

I'm not liking platina's input so far. A lot of conjecture about the setup and whether or not to lynch a third party.

What about Trucks seems different?



zero129 said:

I didnt really feel like the was much in it that needed addressing to be honest. Well other then the fact that your really down playing my part in Mr.P's lynch...

Anyway i know the point you been putting to me.

But my point is this. Why the fuck should i see myself as a liability when its others that are trying to tunnel me with stupid reasons for it?.

Fact is i would of won the game two games ago if i didnt have to leave. I helped win last game. I have pinged mafia lots of times.

To come after me with such silly reasons as "Your a liability" when i have done more good for town then others (I mean look at how bad you guys lost last game without me). Will make me look at that person as scum looking for an easy target, But like i said mafia's mistake is thinking im an easy target.

The is a reason i dont trust people who use such silly reasoning for a lynch since 99% of the time thats how mafia gets a mis lynch...

I don't recall you playing any significant part in his lynch. Maybe you tried to keep suspicion on him Day Two and I just overlooked you completely.

Two games ago you also nearly made prof quit the game because you refused to accept facts due to your blind faith that he was scum. Winning as scum is not a good argument to not lynch you.

I think there's merit to lynching you over no lynch, but as I said that'd be a last resort thing.



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theprof00 said:
spurgeonryan said:
I know he will try harder this time if scum so it is hard to say anything so soon.

I do not remember him ever being likethis before, but after the last few games I see where he is coming from. But just bexcuse zero is wild, does not mean he alone is responsible for any lose or win. In fact, last game other than being scum, he really was not responsible for anything. Neither was Mr.P fully responsible for the loss.

People keep saying who the best person to lynch go the sake of town is, yet those same people lost too.

For this instance we could just vote Arminilio since he is doing the same type of stuff Darwin was. Is he new, is he just playing, what?

Back to trucks. He is playing different.

the way darwin played and the way arminillo is playing is different. darwin basically just made excuses, with the majority of excuses being that he was new and confused. Arminillo seems to be actively trying to participate.(plus I think he mistakenly softclaimed for the purpose of "being helpful")

I'm not liking platina's input so far. A lot of conjecture about the setup and whether or not to lynch a third party.

What about Trucks seems different?

I was reading through a list of 3rd party roles and since their win conditions are different it doesn't really matter to them whether or not town wins or not

http://epicmafia.wikia.com/wiki/Third_Party

I did a quick skim of the list and most actually have negative roles to town if they are kept alive so is why I brought that up.. but is brought to my attention that focusing on mafia is the main priority so that is why I'm not pushing the 3rd party thing anymore :/



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^^Doesn't that only make 14 of 15 total players? I feel like 3 scum and an SK is pretty slim in a 15 player game personally.

Also, what is going on with people pushing policy lynches. Last game, when I even so much as suggested a time limit after several days had passed, I was shunned and people indicated there was still lots of info to receive. Now we are magically ok with lynching somebody right away?

I'll have to read up day 1 of last game and compare it to the opinions today cause I'm interested in what all changed, but I'm limited to my phone tonight.



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spurgeonryan said:
@Sero
Well you are ki nd of putting words in my mouth about trucks and why he would vote for you.


@ prof

But we did not see full scale of Darwin's play until later on. Day one he just seemed the noob, as does amrinilio.

Does that meaan we lynch him, aka policy lynch?

Or do we hang around for days like Darwin.

Same concept.

Are you actually thinking about lynching amrinillo or are you just playing devil's advocate?

I personally like Blade a lot so far.