Yeah but the agenda part is what contributes to these types of threads. He claimed to have quit PC gaming yonks ago, yet here we are staring at him making threads where he's trying to pit PC vs PS4P, a single refresh console and trying to put PC into the negative. If he left PC behind then he should have zero issues in not having to bring up PC again, yet we're seeing this happening over and over, like a guy who needs to constantly confirm that he made the "right choice", it's just not healthy.

Yeah that part I do get> last thread of his got locked due to lack of him actually taking part. The resisting of arguments isn't just from him though. We've got others that give us data and charts to run with as well as other information, then that info gets refuted because reasons. That's the part that gets me.

Fair comment, I'll say this. It doesn't remind me of anything quite like those threads from a few years ago where the power of the cell in the PS3 was worshipped in some kind of sickly echo chamber. Maybe like you I've seen the worst so this is on fairly safe ground.

But you're quite right thinking about it. People do tend to get a bit upset over this stuff unfortunately.

That would not be an appropriate comparison.
You cannot upgrade the internal components in your console other than the hard drive.

Plus my PC existed before this console generation began, you would need to combine the costs of a PS3 and PS4 to get the same kind of usability I have had, cross-generation.
Not only that, but I could probably sell my PC and get more gaming performance overall with a more modern "Mainstream" rig using Socket 1151.

Uh. No.

4.2 Teraflops and 8.4 Teraflops are both equally as "real world" as each other, do you understand how flops are relevent to rendering a 3D game? I am more than happy to give you a run down.

It's also got nothing to do with Integers. - They are all floating point with differences in precision, you can also have double precision which on AMD's GCN 4.0 is 1/2 to 1/16th the performance, which means anywhere from 263 Gflops to 2.1 Teraflops for the Playstation 4 Pro.

If you are tired of them you may decide to not participate and spare yourself and others.

Based on the same as you, we don't know much... What i'm going from is supposing his 900 is a right figure (thanks for your worry, but I don't need it), the point of the thread is discussing what the ARK guy said not to throw accusations to others.

Yes we can't be certain about it. So I'm supposing that the gain in performance Scorpio will have and the offset of price on the period will be EQUIVALENT that is quite different from being equal. But you are free to disagree.

But in the thread we are talking about building an entire machine not upgrading parts, so you bringing that you can just swap a card and it will cost less isn't very thread related unless you also consider other can just sell his previous console and pick up the new one.

I'll be happy to see your lecture. But you were the one that said the 8.4TF would be very low application in RW.

And wasn't the double and single precision related to 32bit or 16bit integers?

Didn't watch the whole video but from 5 games he reviewed,3 were not optimized for pro and 2 that were looked and ran better on the pro then on that build.

Already gave the other suggestion out before, of simply not making said threads to begin with and spare us all.

And in that territory we could also bring up said games that are not optimized for PC. Ark just happens to be one of them.

No. That's why it's called floats, as in IEEE754. The representation is in a 16 or 32 bit "value" but an integer is by definition a value with no decimal point, rather than a representation of a "real" number (float).

Oh i didn't say anything about Ark i just told him that i think it's pointless he posted that link if it didn't had anything to do with ark.

He should have brought ark Pc vs Ps4 pro Optimization,not 5 games that don't have anything to do with the topic at hand he just wanted to say that build is better even though 3 games were not optimized they don't even have a patch for ps4pro and 2 that have a patch run and look better on pro then that build.

That's the thing i told him about the video it is pointless.

Even then at the end of the day, Ark is a hot mess and isn't properley optimized for any platform at the moment, the game isn't even fully complete yet.

Don't forget that some devs out theere aren't required by law to patch for the Pro, but on PC, theyd efinitely need to make sure that their game actually runs on the specs listed and other cards out there. if the game runs on the base PS4, it runs on the PS4.

I don't think the video is completely pointless, half of what it contains shows differences in that build compared to the uniform build of the PS4.

I'm not too sure about the idea of not being able to side by side it until one sides is patched, we may as well do this wioth PC as well if that were the case, like with say Arkham Knight, that game on PC release ran like crap, but after a year it's changed, but no one today is going to care to do side by side benchmarks for it.