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Wyrdness said:
Barkley said:

You don't need evidence to know that XBO digital sales are higher than WiiU digital sales. I don't know that my Kitchen isn't on fire right now, but I can assume it isn't with 99.99% confidence.

Your kitchen gives off evidence that it's on fire so that's a poor argument mate.

That's assuming I'm in the house. Doesn't matter if I have literally zero evidence, it's still a 99.99% safe assumption.

I can't believe people are actually arguing that Splatoon has Equivelent DIGITAL sales to Halo 5, xD.



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onionberry said:
Barkley said:

Vgchartz has the retail difference at just 30k, Digital Ratio for Halo 5 will be far higher than Splatoon. Xbox Live vs Eshop.

You're just assuming without evidence

343’s franchise development director for the Halo franchise, Frank O’Connor, who stepped up and posted Halo 5 sales figures for the first 3 months after the game was released.

O’Connor goes by the name of ‘Stinkles’ on the GAF forums, and according to him, Halo 5: Guardians sold 5 million copies within the first 3 months

5 Million Shipped+Digital by end of January 2016. There you go.



Barkley said:
Wyrdness said:

Your kitchen gives off evidence that it's on fire so that's a poor argument mate.

That's assuming I'm in the house. Doesn't matter if I have literally zero evidence, it's still a 99.99% safe assumption.

I can't believe people are actually arguing that Splatoon has Equivelent DIGITAL sales to Halo 5, xD.

What logic are you using because it's not 99% safe assumption, if the is no evidence present then the is no way it can be 99% safe, I'm sure most Halo fans thought their game would outsell Splatoon at retail but look how that's turned out now they have to peg digital sales with no evidence like you're doing. That's a testament to two things here, first is how well Splatoon has done and second to how Halo has underperformed compared to previous games, this series use to hit 10m retail.

As it goes no evidence means an assumption which means nothing against numbers shown, for example someone can just assume Splatoon has sold another 3m digital and you wouldn't be able to argue against it using an assumption.



Wyrdness said:
Barkley said:

That's assuming I'm in the house. Doesn't matter if I have literally zero evidence, it's still a 99.99% safe assumption.

I can't believe people are actually arguing that Splatoon has Equivelent DIGITAL sales to Halo 5, xD.

for example someone can just assume Splatoon has sold another 3m digital and you wouldn't be able to argue against it using an assumption.

I forgot you're not allowed to use Common Sense and Logic to make assumptions without hard evidence, no matter how obvious the matter is.

But evidence in post above if you need it.



Barkley said:
Wyrdness said:

for example someone can just assume Splatoon has sold another 3m digital and you wouldn't be able to argue against it using an assumption.

I forgot you're not allowed to use Common Sense and Logic to make assumptions without hard evidence, no matter how obvious the matter is.

But evidence in post above if you need it.

You're not using them though.



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Wyrdness said:

You're not using them though.

Alright mate, sure! xD

Splatoon Digital Ratio > Halo 5 Digital Ratio! NICE.

Even though the WiiU only comes with an 8gb/32gb HDD and Nintendo's store is hardly as prevalent as Xbox Live.

Luckily I have the ability to see past my dislike of Xbox/Halo and maintain my logic.



Barkley said:
Wyrdness said:

for example someone can just assume Splatoon has sold another 3m digital and you wouldn't be able to argue against it using an assumption.

I forgot you're not allowed to use Common Sense and Logic to make assumptions without hard evidence, no matter how obvious the matter is.

But evidence in post above if you need it.

Come on dude,you can't win against Nintendo you should know that by now.The fact that anyone is trying to argue that splatoon outsold  Halo 5 when including digital should cement that fact.



Barkley said:
Wyrdness said:

for example someone can just assume Splatoon has sold another 3m digital and you wouldn't be able to argue against it using an assumption.

I forgot you're not allowed to use Common Sense and Logic to make assumptions without hard evidence, no matter how obvious the matter is.

But evidence in post above if you need it.

Shall we agree that it's a statistical tie?

Statistical tie of a userbase of ~half the size. I think Splatoon sold more WiiUs than Halo sold XB1 this gen (so far). That doesn't bode well for Halo.

I think the CoD crowd is starting to fracture similar to how fighters did. I think that leaves Nintendo in a good spot for the shooter genre and it would be poetic that they retake all the arcade genres, platforming, racing, fighting and now shooters.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Barkley said:
Wyrdness said:

You're not using them though.

Alright mate, sure! xD

Splatoon Digital Ratio > Halo 5 Digital Ratio! NICE.

Even though the WiiU only comes with an 8gb/32gb HDD and Nintendo's store is hardly as prevalent as Xbox Live.

Splatoon is only around 2.5GB in size and the majority of Wii U's sold are premiums while all units can use and external drive, SD cards and USB stick storages so your point? Wii U doesn't even require mandatory installs either which further erodes your storage argument.

People are pointing out how you can't use an assumption as your argument while dismissing other assumptions, arguments don't work that way, H5 was at 5m shipped to which according to VGC 4.36m was sold while Splatoon is 5.26m sold both at retail. Maybe H5 has sold alot digital but when your argument is an assumption it becomes hazy, going by evidence the majority of game sales for consoles have been at retail so someone being skeptical on the whole digital part is understandable.



Bandorr said:
spurgeonryan said:

Would you not agree that during the N64 era Nintendo was king of Console Shooters?

I couldn't even consider goldeneye a console shooter.

The game was good, and the multiplayer was fun - wouldn't really consider it a shooter though. Specially not in comparison to Halo, Killzone, Call of duty etc

If the list is accurate and there was no competition - then I would say no one had the crown then. Kind of like winning a one person race wouldn't you say?

Your personal opinion on what a console shooter is or isn't is completely irrelevant, sorry. If it isn't a console shooter, what is it?