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d21lewis on 20 November 2016
DonFerrari said:
d21lewis said:
Americans have great taste.

What have happened to their tastes before June 2016?

KLAMarine said:

Where did this info come from? Can I get a source?

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

I don't remember the source, it beens month back.

walsufnir said:

 

So as it is useless, do you think it'd be okay if Sony would not include bc with ps5?

I wouldn't mind they having BC.

It wasn't the right system at the right price, then? I don't know.



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zagojpbr on 20 November 2016
CGI-Quality said:
And, to the Spamming "Jega Is Our God" posts, they need to stop!

 

zagojp said:
Worship Jega or Suffer.

CGI-Quality, I am zagojp, let me start by apologizing for creating this alternate account, I know this is against the rules, but I dont know what else to do, someone hacked my account, maybe JEGA, I dont know, but someone hacked my account and used it to post these crazy things, and apparently my account was not the only one.

 

If you look at my post history will see that I almost never posted here in the forum, I use the forum a lot to read discussions, news, and leaks. I dont post too much because I'm from Brazil, and my English is not the best, and to not be misunderstood and cause confusion I prefer to only use the forum for the reasons mentioned above. Yesterday when I entered the site I was surprised to not be able to access my account, because it was banned, I tried to send an email to the Mods, but until now I did not have any answers, I tried to send a message on VGChartz's facebook, but without answers, I ask to LipeJJ (because he's from Brazil too) to send you a message explaining what had happened.

 

But let's get right to the point, I'd like you to do an analysis and punish who hacked my account, and you to exclude my ban, if possible.



Teeqoz on 20 November 2016
thismeintiel said:
Teeqoz said:

I believe some people are influenced by the inclusion of a UHD drive, if only because it allows Microsoft to say stuff like "Only console that can play 4K blu-rays". I mean, the fact that the XBO outsold the PS4 in september and october alone is proof that Microsoft did a better job with the XBO S than Sony did with the Slim. As for the Pro, I personally feel (though that's just me personally) that Sony would've been better off with having a stronger Pro releasing later. Now, yes, if the Pro has a kick-ass NPD in november, I'll gladly admit that I was wrong, and that the september and october win could be written off as people waiting for the PS4 Pro. (and I hope that's the case. My Sony stocks will rise more by Playstation doing well than my Microsoft stocks will rise by Xbox doing well simply because Playstation is a much bigger part of Sony's business than Xbox is of Microsoft's. :-3)

OR it could be people were holding off for the Pro.  You look at any online retailer, currently, and I believe only Walmart has the Pro under any XBO SKU on there Bestsellers list.  Heck, on many of them the Pro is the first console on the list.  October also saw the launch of one of XBOs biggest exclusives, GeOW4.  Add in a bunch of firesales and you have yourself a nice few months of wins.

Releasing a mid-gen upgrade later is a double edged sword, though.  Is the Scorpio going to be more powerful than the Pro?  Sure.  But, how long after the Scorpio launches are we going to start getting rumors of the PS5 and XB2 (if there is one)?  I think it's safe to say that the PS5 will launch in 2019.  It makes the most sense.  Not only is it 6 years after the PS4 launched, a normal generation for consoles, but it's also 3 years after the Pro launches, just enough so those buyers don't feel ripped off.  Maybe more importantly, it marks the 25th anniversary of the PS brand.  25th.  PS5.  The ads write themselves.  I mean just write P25, but flip the 2 and you're done. 

Anyway, we started hearing about the PS4 and XBO in early 2012.  It may have even been late 2011, but I can't quite remember.  Even if it was only 2012, that means we are most likely going to be hearing rumors about the PS5 in early-mid 2018, just a few months after the Scorpio launches.  You'll have a $399-$499 6Tflops Scorpio on shelves as there are rumblings of a ~9-10Tflops PS5, which will most likely launch for $399 the very next year.  That cannot be good for sales. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the PS5 rumors are controlled leaks from Sony.

Basically, because MS is coming late to the party, the Scorpio is not a mid-gen upgrade.  It is a late-gen upgrade.  A very risky thing to do with next gen around the corner.  It could become MS's 32x.  The only thing I can think they may do is just call the Scorpio the XB2.  But, even that wouldn't be very wise, as Sony will have once again have the more powerful next gen system for a great price.

I mean, yeah, I did say that it could also be because people are waiting for the pro, but that I'd reserve judgement on that until november's NPD is out. It's right there in the post you quoted. But I still feel like Sony dropped the ball on the Pro personally, and no amount of sales are going to convince me otherwise in that regard.



Egelo on 20 November 2016

PS4 pro that's why.

US and similar minded places are very "ohh shiny new thing i must have now)



KLAMarine on 20 November 2016
DonFerrari said:
KLAMarine said:

Where did this info come from? Can I get a source?

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

I don't remember the source, it beens month back.

Well shit.



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DonFerrari on 20 November 2016
d21lewis said:
DonFerrari said:

What have happened to their tastes before June 2016?

I don't remember the source, it beens month back.

I wouldn't mind they having BC.

It wasn't the right system at the right price, then? I don't know.

Probably, price can put a play on taste =]

zagojpbr said:
CGI-Quality said:
And, to the Spamming "Jega Is Our God" posts, they need to stop!

 

zagojp said:
Worship Jega or Suffer.

CGI-Quality, I am zagojp, let me start by apologizing for creating this alternate account, I know this is against the rules, but I dont know what else to do, someone hacked my account, maybe JEGA, I dont know, but someone hacked my account and used it to post these crazy things, and apparently my account was not the only one.

 

If you look at my post history will see that I almost never posted here in the forum, I use the forum a lot to read discussions, news, and leaks. I dont post too much because I'm from Brazil, and my English is not the best, and to not be misunderstood and cause confusion I prefer to only use the forum for the reasons mentioned above. Yesterday when I entered the site I was surprised to not be able to access my account, because it was banned, I tried to send an email to the Mods, but until now I did not have any answers, I tried to send a message on VGChartz's facebook, but without answers, I ask to LipeJJ (because he's from Brazil too) to send you a message explaining what had happened.

 

But let's get right to the point, I'd like you to do an analysis and punish who hacked my account, and you to exclude my ban, if possible.

Someone else already posted they were hacked by Zega, but haven't seen anything happening. Before we were instructed to send e-mail to the mod to solve things, haven't got replies there either. Not sure what kinda of mess is happening right now, but there is a thread specific for instructions on the rules and how to contact the mod team, maybe there is something refreshed there.

KLAMarine said:
DonFerrari said:

I don't remember the source, it beens month back.

Well shit.

Sorry man. At the time someone created a thread about it.



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zagojpbr on 20 November 2016
CGI-Quality said:
zagojpbr said:

 

CGI-Quality, I am zagojp, let me start by apologizing for creating this alternate account, I know this is against the rules, but I dont know what else to do, someone hacked my account, maybe JEGA, I dont know, but someone hacked my account and used it to post these crazy things, and apparently my account was not the only one.

 

If you look at my post history will see that I almost never posted here in the forum, I use the forum a lot to read discussions, news, and leaks. I dont post too much because I'm from Brazil, and my English is not the best, and to not be misunderstood and cause confusion I prefer to only use the forum for the reasons mentioned above. Yesterday when I entered the site I was surprised to not be able to access my account, because it was banned, I tried to send an email to the Mods, but until now I did not have any answers, I tried to send a message on VGChartz's facebook, but without answers, I ask to LipeJJ (because he's from Brazil too) to send you a message explaining what had happened.

 

But let's get right to the point, I'd like you to do an analysis and punish who hacked my account, and you to exclude my ban, if possible.

We've been investigating. If you're cleared, you have my word - the Ban will be disregarded (and noted for others to do so).

Thanks dude. And again, sorry for creating this alternate account.



alabtrosMyster on 20 November 2016

Has anyone looked at the bundles offered with the xbox one s (get it almost free with a 4K TV)? or the firesale of the og xbox one (bundled with so many games that the cost of the console comes down to something like 50$)...

I mean, I really like my PS4, and am about to get a PS4 Pro, but I can see people picking these consoles for their kids, or as an easy uprade coming from the 360, with it being partially backward compatible.

Add this to the good relation MS has with the gaming press, and their great social media presence... I mean, you still have people calling Sony arrogant for saying they have the most powerful console on the market - it's just something people say in gaming Sony is "arrogant" - then MS has this Scorpio thing they plan to maybe release next holiday season that will be somewhat more powerful, MS act as if they shipped the most powerful console (it's still around 1 full year out at the time of this writing), and it seems like very few people find this claim "arrogant", or presumptuous... 

So yeah, MS fixed their reputation, and for some reason I have yet to understand Sony is still a boogey man, in some circles... so yeah, when you give a good product away against a better product that cost quite a bit more (the PS4 has not had to be given away like this, EVER), and you manage to make some in the press believe a minor upgrade of it with some neat re-resign is a major upgrade, well yeah, they get some sales.



Shiken on 20 November 2016

Outselling where? Globally in the US?



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LudicrousSpeed on 20 November 2016
DonFerrari said:
Jigsawx1 said:
i think the bad marketing at the beginning dont interest the people no more, and some groups of people now see that the Xone has some important exclusives that the ps4 is missing (racing/Shooters) like halo Gow4 and Forza series, so the xone s only was the i touch to change systems.

Two of my friends for example changed in the last month and their opinion was that the ps4 dont have a good racing game or good exclusive shooters, and they dont trust Sony that gt sport will be good or that the game release next year. After they went to gamestop the traded in their ps4 with all games and one get the 500Gb Fifa bundle Xone s with Forza 6, Halo 5 and Bf1. The other buyed the Green 1 Tb Bf1 Bundle and get Horizon 3 with it.
So Now they have the good exclusives and all the 3rd party support they need.

I think Ms has the Momentum Now because of an exellent exclusive Line Up with Gears 4, Halo 5, Quantum Break, Forza6, Horizon 3, Halo Mcc, Sunset Overdrive or Ryse Son of Rome and others people see it now.
Some will say that you can play some games on the pc but this dont interest a 30 year old worker who dont have enough time to play how he want to.

The other side is the technical part where normal (casuals) dont see a diffrence betwenn 900 p upscaled to 1080p or 1080 p native

Certainly Driveclub is a very bad game, Project Cars is inexistent so PS4 have no racers right? Destiny, CoD, KZ are all very inexistent shooters.

Well, yes actually. Driveclub is a beautiful but very flawed racing game, which is reflected in the meta score for the game. IIRC it's low 7's, which is not bad, but not good. That's a perfect score for Driveclub.

Also, he said exclusive shooters, Destiny and CoD are not exclusive, and KZ is not really any good either.