All they need is universal Achievements and it'll be a hit. A fresh achievement system that people can compete on. Nintendo makes great games already. I know I'm getting the Switch day 1. Miitomo and Pokémon Go was the one, two punch that made me have faith in the new Nintendo to come. Games made on mobile that had mass appeal and not even on a Nintendo unit. That tells you how great their software is.
Switch makes sense once people realize that the main selling point of any Nintendo device is the Nintendo games & exclusives and that multiplatform titles have never in the history of Nintendo been a major selling factor outside of a few exceptions so releasing a device designed to maximize the number of Nintendo games & exclusives is clearly the best option.
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These topics frustrate me for how little understanding one has for why things work the way they do and why this was needed for Nintendo and the industry. Oh and Btw Gameboy line did really well selling well over 200 million combined units. DS line has again sold for a combined over 200 million units. Xbox and PS4 being just PCs with a custom OS is hurting the industry and stagnating it. They don't offer much we can't get on a PC and better. We do not need 3 of the same thing. Just look at history. Every time 3-4 consoles go for the same market one of them fails badly. Turbo,Saturn,Dreamcast,Gamecube,Wii U. The reason is when 3 or more target the same crowd 3 becomes a crowd. Over saturated. DS,Wii,NES,Game Boy aimed and Switch aiming at a blue ocean. N64,Gamecube,Wii U aimed at a red ocean and paid for it in different ways.
Switch offers something new and unique and something anyone can get into. They also used Sony like marketing with Switch. Again a damn good thing. They have adults excited. Making a console like Sony or MS would not only seal the deal of Nintendo's last console,it would lose them a boat load of money possibly making them do a SEGA. Sony and MS don't care they lose money on hardware but Nintendo does care. Switch is the smartest thing they have done since Wii.
Even considered a home console, i cant see it like a wii U.
It is not focused in double screen.is on a single screen.
So, we will never see comments like"these games wont make a good use of the gamepad?" "why they obly me to pay mandatory much more if i wont use the gamepad?" "where i look? for gamepad screen or for tv?".
In switch system, all the confusions and concept problems about the gamepad will be gone.
Will remain only the good about gamepad: off-tv play. And now, not only in home.
I consider nintendo learned with all wii U flaws, and made a much better concept on switch.
| invetedlotus123 said: I mean, if Nintendo said " we`re not going to release a home console again, but, we are selling this incredible portable device and we are also allowing consumers to play on TV by using the included base" it would be just fine, but saying Switch is a home console first makes no sense at all. I see nothing good coming from Switch, it`s sounds even worse than Wii U, and Wii U was an already horrible idea. To be fair, they're only advertising it as console-first right now because they don't want to cripple the 3DS sales this holiday season (Wii U is clearly dead, so might as well focus on replacing it). I bet that as soon as next year comes, they will start being more neutral in that regard and will advertise it as both things instead of focusing on one aspect more than the other. Btw, the Switch is Nintendo's least "gimmicky" system in a long time if you really think about it. It's not like you need to use it as a handheld, you can keep it docked forever if you wish. That's what's special about it, Nintendo is giving people the option to play however they like. Nintendo has a real problem for not wanting to follow tech trends, because of that they missed all generations after SNES with the excpetion of Wii. Why Nintendo keep doing it? Why they seem to want to fail so hard? Why just not make console with really good specs and Nintendo games and stop doing this thing of trying to be different with no clear advantage? Because there's no space left in the market for three consoles that are exactly the same. I'm pretty sure that being able to play full-blown console games on the go is a clear advantage over the other two. If that isn't an advantage, having every Nintendo game in one place sure is (You have to keep in mind that the Switch allows Nintendo to stop making duplicate games and that leaves free time/resources to make other games (New IP's, revivals, spin-offs, etc), allowing for more games and variety in their lineup). Wii was a hit, but only Wii. Why is it so hard for Nintendo to just buy some nice components and make great software? The Switch's hardware is pretty good if you consider what it's trying to accomplish. Nice components != powerful specs. You can't really expect PS4 Pro/Scorpio levels of power on a hybrid device anyways, that would be very expensive. It may not be super powerful, but it does have its advantages (Cartridges instead of discs, modern architecture, etc). I mean, I really don`t understand what Nintendo is still doing in hardware business for home consoles. Switch is heading to be a big disappointment for those who want to see Nintendo doing great again. Most of the reactions regarding the Switch have been positive so far, so it's a good sign at the very least. Not going even for PS4/XB1 level, when those were already underpowered for 2013 and even more for 2016 is really pointless. Again, this is a hybrid, and it's pretty powerful for what it is. Anything above PS4/XB1 in that form-factor would be expensive, terrible for battery life and would probably get pretty hot too. |
Sorry for the text wall by the way, but hopefully I could help you understand better what Nintendo is trying to do here.
| spurgeonryan said: Wii U was a great idea. Just implemented poorly. Plus their failure to learn from failed business practices and strategies hurt it. What they allowed to happen to their third party support over the years finally spilled over with the Wii U. But I love the gamepad as a controller and as a secondary screen. So many hours of playing what I want or watching what I want while my GF watches some lame show. |
absolutely true.
I don't really get how it's a terrible idea. It's a simple concept to explain: A console you can play at home on a TV, or on the go. It was so simple, they were able to get away with making the reveal only 3 minutes long. Sure, the Wii U did convey its concept with its initial reveal, but in commercials, they weren't able to convey that anymore. It came down to its unique library.
The Switch will definitely be easier to sell and market compared to the Wii U. Heck, even the name is better. Switch tells you exactly what it is. Wii U.... not really at all.
I'm not gonna say the Wii U had a terrible concept either. It had a neat idea with potential, but was never reached and never messaged well. The Switch shouldn't suffer from that.
Also, Nintendo did try to follow the trends with the Gamecube, using CDs and power to boot, but it still sold poorly. It's likely the result of the poor sales of the GC that Nintendo went in a new direction. So the answer's not so easy as to just follow what everyone else was doing. It wouldn't have gotten us the Wii, and likely wouldn't have gotten us the Switch either.
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its just PR talk no need to take it so seriously. It's obviously not a home console first
I think it is a great concept. For someone who is business traveling a lot, I can take my home console around and play my games. Currently I am sitting at Berlin Tegel airport and being really bored at waiting.
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| Cloudman said: Also, Nintendo did try to follow the trends with the Gamecube, using CDs and power to boot, but it still sold poorly. It's likely the result of the poor sales of the GC that Nintendo went in a new direction. So the answer's not so easy as to just follow what everyone else was doing. It wouldn't have gotten us the Wii, and likely wouldn't have gotten us the Switch either. |
Gamecube was a half-hearted attempt at best. The problem with the Gamecube is Nintendo did not jump onto two major trends at the time: multi-media and the changing perception of video games. Nintendo failed to take advantage of these new trends to improve upon the mistakes made with the Nintendo 64 by not taking advantage of CD/DVD playback and marketing towards a broader audience.
It was almost there but it wasn't enough.
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