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Going by the yearlies, you can tell that at #1 the PS4S was selling boatloads more than #2. I wouldn't be surprised if we see something similar across all retailers. It'll also be interesting to see how physical stores affect this. I know at my local Walmart, I was surprised at how many PS4s I saw in carts. We should get some kind of numbers in a few days.



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Time to move on december thread.



Dark_Feanor said:
It will be close. 10% differense tops.

It will be bigger. People underestimate Preorders and PS4 sales.

Each 100K of Pro preorders means probably 10% of advantage alone. The one who was 30% down yoy was the Xbox, I don't see that on the USA. A drop of that kind is needed in order for the Xbox and PS4 to be that close.



Swordmasterman said:
Dark_Feanor said:
It will be close. 10% differense tops.

It will be bigger. People underestimate Preorders and PS4 sales.

Each 100K of Pro preorders means probably 10% of advantage alone. The one who was 30% down yoy was the Xbox, I don't see that on the USA. A drop of that kind is needed in order for the Xbox and PS4 to be that close.

With 400k in preoders in NA alone I would say the Pro is by now far above 1 million, which would prompt Sony to give a anouncement about that.

So, no. I don´t think the PS4 Pro moved that much unities with preoders.



Dark_Feanor said:
Swordmasterman said:

It will be bigger. People underestimate Preorders and PS4 sales.

Each 100K of Pro preorders means probably 10% of advantage alone. The one who was 30% down yoy was the Xbox, I don't see that on the USA. A drop of that kind is needed in order for the Xbox and PS4 to be that close.

With 400k in preoders in NA alone I would say the Pro is by now far above 1 million, which would prompt Sony to give a anouncement about that.

So, no. I don´t think the PS4 Pro moved that much unities with preoders.

We hear this said loads but it's not a truthful statement. Sony do not make a habit of announcing data at every milestone. Too many times I've heard "but if Sony had sold 'x' amount of consoles they would of said" for them to announce a larger figure at a later date. I don't think Pro has hit 1M units though, maybe shipped.



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Good to see the price up now. Is PS4 Pro still sold out ??



SWORDF1SH said:
Dark_Feanor said:

With 400k in preoders in NA alone I would say the Pro is by now far above 1 million, which would prompt Sony to give a anouncement about that.

So, no. I don´t think the PS4 Pro moved that much unities with preoders.

We hear this said loads but it's not a truthful statement. Sony do not make a habit of announcing data at every milestone. Too many times I've heard "but if Sony had sold 'x' amount of consoles they would of said" for them to announce a larger figure at a later date. I don't think Pro has hit 1M units though, maybe shipped.

That's one flaw of Dark_Feanor's argument. His bigger flaw is the flat-out assumption that 400K sales in NA means 1 million sales worldwide. The Pro appeals to a different demographic from a regular PS4. We clearly see this with the shortage of Pros in Japan. The lifestyles of an average Japanese gamer vs a western gamer are different, particularly when it comes to space which is pretty integral to owning a 4K TV or not. It's likely a similar case in the rest of Asia, too, so the Pro's sales will be more skewed towards the west compared to the standard console.

Welfare mentioned on GAF that hardware sales in the UK tend to be 20-25% of those in the US. Through Black Friday, I think we can safely assume that the Pro sold at least 100K LTD in the UK. Taking the percentage Welfare provided, 400K Pro sales in the US is definitely possible.



4 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PS4s UC4 Bundle (same)
#03 XB1s-500gb Battlefield Bundle (down 1)
#11 N3DSXL Lime (up 4)
#30 XB1s-1tb Battflield Bundle (down 1)
#37 XB1s-500gb Minecraft Bundle (up 1)
#42 PS4 Pro (down 1)
#47 XB1s-1tb Gears Bundle (down 2)
#86 PSVR Headset (up 7)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)

Nothing at the moment


PS4:
2 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5
XB1:
4 in the top 100 / 4 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5



 

The PS5 Exists. 


GribbleGrunger said:

4 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PS4s UC4 Bundle (same)
#03 XB1s-500gb Battlefield Bundle (down 1)
#11 N3DSXL Lime (up 4)
#30 XB1s-1tb Battflield Bundle (down 1)
#37 XB1s-500gb Minecraft Bundle (up 1)
#42 PS4 Pro (down 1)
#47 XB1s-1tb Gears Bundle (down 2)
#86 PSVR Headset (up 7)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)

Nothing at the moment


PS4:
2 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5
XB1:
4 in the top 100 / 4 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5

Nice.



who has a better 1st party lineup of games next year? sony or ms?