And most of them arnt really even recorded in 4k.....

The only reason i don't care about the Pro lacking the UHD drive is i already have an XBO S on my main 4K TV. So all a Pro serves for is Sony first party exclusives and PS+.

I use a  FireTV  with custom Kodi build thru my XBO S's HDMI input. Needless to say, every guddamn media need of mine is covered by the Microsoft console- DVD/Bluray/UHD Bluray, PLEX, KODI,Netflix, Amazon....thru its interface.

I agree. I never buy blu-rays, who does it? We have Netflix even in Brazil. In America you guys got Pureflix, Hulu, Amazon video. So, what would be the point of spending 30 bucks on something you will watch once.
Who watches a movie multiple times? Babies maybe, 99% of us do not have the time even to replay a game on a higher dificulty setting.

Don't you think it's rather telling that Sony has no faith in 4K blu-ray? Or that we haven't heard anything about any uptake in 4K UHD disc sales since the XBox One S released? It's been completely silent since reports in June that early UHD disc sales outpaced blu-ray. (Compared against $1000 blu-ray players, far lower 1080p tv adoption than 4K now and in competition with an at that time more developed and cheaper HD-DVD format)
The PS3 quickly turned the HD-DVD/Blu-ray format war around, yet 4K UHD sales since XBox One S, crickets, while the XBox One S has been selling very well.

I have over 500 blu-rays, great format, but I expected a lot more from a 4K disc format. It's a much smaller increase in bandwidth compared to DVD, promised rec.2020 color gamut has been dialed back to DCI P3, 12 bit color dialed back to 10 bit, HDR 10 instead of the much better Dolby Vision, sound options unchanged, disc size still too small to fit extras on with the movie or a whole season in 4K. It's a lot better than streaming, yet reading reviews comparing 4K UHD disc to the blu-ray version it's like DF trying to point at differences between current multiplat XB1 PS4 games.

That, the high asking prices for 4K UHD discs, most of them upscaled from a 2K master, 4K projectors still being far too expensive and can't do HDR, HDR itself still being a moving target with mixed results, needing a new receiver to hear the same sound over hdmi 2.0, I'm about the opposite of how excited I was for blu-ray coming out.

I feel kind of dirty agreeing with patcher.

But he's right. The Pro playing dvds and blu ray is already covering enough. Supporting UHD is just a waste of money.

So it will be important, Pachter jinx

Maybe not right now, but It'll be important when it costs $10 to rent a 4k film digitally vs $4 from Redbox. Seriously, even right now, you can BUY a lot of BR movies used for within a dollar of their digital rental price. How in hell is digital a good alternative with their ridiculous asking prices?

So he's suddenly a reliable analyst when he favors the PS brand. Alright.

rofl.. Redbox? that company closed down because no one was using it any more. Too funny... 

(Actually, it didnt close down, but it sold itself) 

He is absolutely correct.