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SvennoJ on 31 October 2016
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Mummelmann said:
Vinther1991 said:
Well it matters to some people. I don't buy his argument. This product is aimed at people who value visual quality, why should they be satisfied with streaming, which is absolutely lackcluster in both visual and audio quality. People who are satisfied with downgraded visuals of movies or games would probably buy the slim.

100% what I'm thinking as well. There is no good reason for it not to support 4K discs, the total added cost would be more than neglectable, Sony are both co-owners of the format itself as well heavy on contacts and suppliers for parts and assembly on anything and everything blu-ray related. It sounds like the feeble excuses that were used last gen when Nintendo chose to region lock their consoles, they did because they did it, more or less, the reasoning behind was nonsense. Sony, a tech and hi-fi company with a long history of formats, film and movie distribution, always at the forefront of tech when it comes to visual and audiovisual technology, have left out the best version of their own format where they distribute their own films on their own platform. It makes no sense what so ever, even if the pool of potential consumers who would buy for 4K discs is small, which I'm not so sure that it is. Getting a kick-ass console with upscaled 4K gaming and proper 4K movies on disc could be just what the doctor ordered and it certainly wouldn't detract from the appeal of the Pro at any rate.

Don't you think it's rather telling that Sony has no faith in 4K blu-ray? Or that we haven't heard anything about any uptake in 4K UHD disc sales since the XBox One S released? It's been completely silent since reports in June that early UHD disc sales outpaced blu-ray. (Compared against $1000 blu-ray players, far lower 1080p tv adoption than 4K now and in competition with an at that time more developed and cheaper HD-DVD format)
The PS3 quickly turned the HD-DVD/Blu-ray format war around, yet 4K UHD sales since XBox One S, crickets, while the XBox One S has been selling very well.

I have over 500 blu-rays, great format, but I expected a lot more from a 4K disc format. It's a much smaller increase in bandwidth compared to DVD, promised rec.2020 color gamut has been dialed back to DCI P3, 12 bit color dialed back to 10 bit, HDR 10 instead of the much better Dolby Vision, sound options unchanged, disc size still too small to fit extras on with the movie or a whole season in 4K. It's a lot better than streaming, yet reading reviews comparing 4K UHD disc to the blu-ray version it's like DF trying to point at differences between current multiplat XB1 PS4 games.

That, the high asking prices for 4K UHD discs, most of them upscaled from a 2K master, 4K projectors still being far too expensive and can't do HDR, HDR itself still being a moving target with mixed results, needing a new receiver to hear the same sound over hdmi 2.0, I'm about the opposite of how excited I was for blu-ray coming out.