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Do you predict the Nintendo Switch will do better than the Wii U?

Yes 40 74.07%
 
No 9 16.67%
 
Same 5 9.26%
 
Total:54
awesomeabe1998 said:
vivster said:

You think the average consumer is interested in  what Nintendo likes to categorize it as? It's a tablet you plug into your tv. That's a concept people easily understand and that's what I guess it will be used as most of the time since Nintendo's audience is primarily handheld users.

Which is why it will sell more than the Wii U. Because there is no other handheld anymore Nintendo's fans can indulge in.

When I first look at the commercial, I see a home console, not a portable one. I can take the home console on the go. Not vise versa. If they advertise it as a portable console you can plug into the TV then you may have a point. They advertised it as a home console you can take on the go.

You don't seem to grasp the concept of practicality. No one gives a shit about arbitrary opinions about what it is first when it does both equally well.

Clamouring to the thought that it's a home console first and foremost will look pretty silly when the majority of users will treat it as a handheld. So you better accept soon that it is both or you risk coming across rather pedantic.



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vivster said:
awesomeabe1998 said:

When I first look at the commercial, I see a home console, not a portable one. I can take the home console on the go. Not vise versa. If they advertise it as a portable console you can plug into the TV then you may have a point. They advertised it as a home console you can take on the go.

You don't seem to grasp the concept of practicality. No one gives a shit about arbitrary opinions about what it is first when it does both equally well.

Clamouring to the thought that it's a home console first and foremost will look pretty silly when the majority of users will treat it as a handheld. So you better accept soon that it is both or you risk coming across rather pedantic.

Again, I am not saying that it is only a home console, nor only a portable console. I am saying that Nintendo is advertising it as a HOME CONSOLE. althought it acts as both. Personally, I am going to use the Switch at home on my TV more than on the go. A lot of people on the internet also share the same idea. A lot also want to use it as more of a portable. Again, IT DOES BOTH! That is the beauty of it.



awesomeabe1998 said:
Qwark said:

 

 

According to this source the X2 has 1.5 teraflop of computing power. This is 16 bit or half floating point however. Gaming uses 32 bit or full floating points. The Xone is able to render 2.6 TFLOP using half floating points and 1.3 Tflop using full floating points. There was a thread lately about the PS4 pro being able to render 8.4 TFLOPS using half floating points. Anyway if NS uses X2 it gets to 0.75 TFlops leaving a gap of 0.6 TFLOPS, which makes the NS a bit more powerful than half a Xone, without taking many things which are pribably in favour of the Xone into account. Considering how games will look and the frame rate and its stability for third party games.

 

https://m.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4z80yo/nvidia_finally_revealed_tegra_parker_x2_with_more/

Regardless a 0.6 TFLOPS difference does not make the system as weak as people make it to be. Obviously other factors come into play, but why would you say XB1 has the advantage when it comes to the other factors?

Mainly costs powersupply and cooling, it's more expensive to make a mobile device than a stationary device with the same power output. The NS has more accessoires than the Xone which costs money to produce. The Xone can use that 1.3 Tflop for how long as it wants without worrying about power usage or cooling, sure it sounds like a jet engine bit it does that for a reason. A tablet has a screen probably a touch screen which costs some money to produce. 

 

Now it's not low in power using either the X1 or X2, but 0.6 TFLOPS is a big difference. Don't forget most graphic intensive  games don't reach 1080/30 on Xone or in rare cases even the PS4. Being 1.2 Tflop less powerful than the PS4 is a big difference for a homeconsole as which Nintendo primarily marketing the NS.

 

Can you make great looking games with 0.6 Tflop, sure especially using a cartoony artstyle. Do games look almost the same as OP implies with less RAM and a GPU which has about 60% of the Xone power. No it simply has to make some compromises which  are especially visible on the big screen.



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awesomeabe1998 said:
vivster said:

You don't seem to grasp the concept of practicality. No one gives a shit about arbitrary opinions about what it is first when it does both equally well.

Clamouring to the thought that it's a home console first and foremost will look pretty silly when the majority of users will treat it as a handheld. So you better accept soon that it is both or you risk coming across rather pedantic.

Again, I am not saying that it is only a home console, nor only a portable console. I am saying that Nintendo is advertising it as a HOME CONSOLE. althought it acts as both. Personally, I am going to use the Switch at home on my TV more than on the go. A lot of people on the internet also share the same idea. A lot also want to use it as more of a portable. Again, IT DOES BOTH! That is the beauty of it.

Again, no one gives a shit. Nintendo can market that shit up to the heavens that it's a home console. Doesn't change the fact that it isn't. It's a handheld and a console simultaneously. What Nintendo or you for that matter say about it has no bearing on anything whatsoever.

I can market my toaster as a paper weight all day long, that doesn't change the fact that it's still a fucking toaster and that people will use it as such. And those people will laugh at your face when you start claiming it's a paperweight just because someone said so.



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vivster said:
awesomeabe1998 said:

Again, I am not saying that it is only a home console, nor only a portable console. I am saying that Nintendo is advertising it as a HOME CONSOLE. althought it acts as both. Personally, I am going to use the Switch at home on my TV more than on the go. A lot of people on the internet also share the same idea. A lot also want to use it as more of a portable. Again, IT DOES BOTH! That is the beauty of it.

Again, no one gives a shit. Nintendo can market that shit up to the heavens that it's a home console. Doesn't change the fact that it isn't. It's a handheld and a console simultaneously. What Nintendo or you for that matter say about it has no bearing on anything whatsoever.

I can market my toaster as a paper weight all day long, that doesn't change the fact that it's still a fucking toaster and that people will use it as such. And those people will laugh at your face when you start claiming it's a paperweight just because someone said so.

It's a hybrid! Not a portable, not a home console! ITS BOTH! I simply said that Nintendo are advertising it as a HOME CONSOLE, althouh it does BOTH!