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DonFerrari on 31 October 2016
Torillian said:
Alkibiádēs said:

No, the core concept of the switch is the merge between their handheld and home console divisions. They won't develop games for two systems anymore, but for one. When the PSP was released Sony split their resources between the PSP and PS3, so it's something entirely different.

The Super Gameboy is the exact same idea as playing PSP games on your TV screen, just with more advanced technology.

If the core concept is to not develop for two platforms and just develop for one doesn't that mean Sony already did this as well.  I mean I keep hearing about how they abandoned the Vita to focus solely on PS4.  Gravity Rush 2 is coming to PS4 when the previous one was on handheld.  Are there any Sony developers making Vita games left?  And if not, haven't they already beaten Nintendo to this innovative concept of consolidating their development teams, just not in the nice way people would like?

Or we could say that MS beat both on that by not even releasing a handheld... or even if we were being serious, their W10 approach is exactly allowing any system that runs W10 to be playable anywhere, so if your phone have w10 you can play that game, if it have hdmi port you can play it on tv, and if you can pair with bluetooth a control you have full console on your phone, same with windows tablet, notebook or surface... Good that now we stablished that Nintendo copied MS.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 31 October 2016

Adding slot-in controllers and a docking station to PSV? Possible, but not likely. 



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Alkibiádēs on 31 October 2016
Torillian said:
Alkibiádēs said:

No because all Sony did was abandon a failing console. The PS4 is not a hybrid console. You can't play PS4 games on the Go unless you buy the Vita for an additional $200 (which is very expensive for a console that's practically dead). Sony's handheld divisions have always been very small anyway. They didn't book many successes.

This is evidenced perfectly by remasters like Gravity Rush and Tearaway for the PS4. If it really was a hybrid console than why did they need to remaster Vita games to the PS4?

People can live in denial all they want, but what Nintendo does is new. Sony never had much of a presence in the handheld market anyway. I've seen many people call the Wii a fluke or a fad, but that goes even more so for the PSP.

For Nintendo the fusion between their handheld and home console divisions will make a noticable difference and increase efficiency by a lot. Sony never invested as much resources as Nintendo in the handheld market. So them not developing Vita games anymore won't even make much of a difference for their PS4 software output.

So Nintendo is doing something new because, although other companies have made hybrids and have consoloidated their development teams, no company has consolidated the amount of development teams Ninty is into a hybrid.  Sure, if we get that specific then I suppose it's an innovation.  But so now let's go back to the OP, what in your mind could Sony or MS possibly copy about the Switch now that we've established that neither has a meaningful enough software development division beyond what is used for home console game development?  

What other companies have made a hybrid console before?

A hybrid console isn't just a handheld console that you can connect to your TV, it's a console where you can play ALL the games the hardware company is developping.

If you wanted to play all of Sony's games you still needed to buy both their handheld and home console. The same goes for Sega.

If the Switch proves succesful like the Wii was than yeah, Sony and MS will copy the concept. It's that simple, they'd be stupid not to if it was that succesful (and I'm not saying it will be that succesful by the way).



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Torillian on 31 October 2016
Alkibiádēs said:
Torillian said:

So Nintendo is doing something new because, although other companies have made hybrids and have consoloidated their development teams, no company has consolidated the amount of development teams Ninty is into a hybrid.  Sure, if we get that specific then I suppose it's an innovation.  But so now let's go back to the OP, what in your mind could Sony or MS possibly copy about the Switch now that we've established that neither has a meaningful enough software development division beyond what is used for home console game development?  

What other companies have made a hybrid console before?

A hybrid console isn't just a handheld console that you can connect to your TV, it's a console where you can play ALL the games the hardware company is developping.

If you wanted to play all of Sony's games you still needed to buy both their handheld and home console. The same goes for Sega.

If the Switch proves succesful like the Wii was than yeah, Sony and MS will copy the concept. It's that simple, they'd be stupid not to if it was that succesful (and I'm not saying it will be that succesful by the way).

MS already has a console with all their content, and Sony does too as we just talked about.  So you're saying that if Nintendo's concept takes off MS and Sony will both completely change the design of their next consoles to make a weaker home console that has the ability to be used as a handheld for a few hours.  I'll have to disagree, I don't really think that would be capable of the type of games both companies like to gear their software development towards.  

 

Edit: thinking on it a bit I suppose this could just be the natural evolution of the home console as the graphical gain from more power becomes harder and harder to notice and NIntendo just reached their critical point of "now a handheld can make the kind of games we like to do on console" than Sony and MS did.  If that's the case you may end up right about the result if for the wrong reason.  



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potato_hamster on 31 October 2016
Alkibiádēs said:
Torillian said:

So Nintendo is doing something new because, although other companies have made hybrids and have consoloidated their development teams, no company has consolidated the amount of development teams Ninty is into a hybrid.  Sure, if we get that specific then I suppose it's an innovation.  But so now let's go back to the OP, what in your mind could Sony or MS possibly copy about the Switch now that we've established that neither has a meaningful enough software development division beyond what is used for home console game development?  

What other companies have made a hybrid console before?

A hybrid console isn't just a handheld console that you can connect to your TV, it's a console where you can play ALL the games the hardware company is developping.

If you wanted to play all of Sony's games you still needed to buy both their handheld and home console. The same goes for Sega.

If the Switch proves succesful like the Wii was than yeah, Sony and MS will copy the concept. It's that simple, they'd be stupid not to if it was that succesful (and I'm not saying it will be that succesful by the way).

We still don't know if the Nintendo Switch IS a hybrid console! Nitendo has specifically said the opposite of that. Yet somehow everyone knows what things Nintendo is saying just to sell more 3DSs and which things are 100% true because reasons.

Okay.