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Not his best comment, for sure. You just don't mix a comment about his passing with a comment about his skills...



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DélioPT said:
Not his best comment, for sure. You just don't mix a comment about his passing with a comment about his skills...

Why not?



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

So it's okay to lash out on a tirade of hate against a living man because he happened to criticize the strategy of a dead business leader.

Great logic. Fantastic sense of justice.



vivster said:
DélioPT said:
Not his best comment, for sure. You just don't mix a comment about his passing with a comment about his skills...

Why not?

Seems like he's taking a stab at the wrong time and it comes of as disrespectful.
He's known for not liking Iwata's later decisions but he didn't have to word it the way he did.



vivster said:
Peh said:

Please elaborate.

I don't see labeling Saturo Iwata as a "late and not so great" person supporting any argument I do.

His comment was obviously meant to reflect on him as a businessman and not a person. He goes on to show how his mobile approach with "pay to play later" will make Nintendo less money than actually making their games free to play with microstransactions.

Your out of context statement makes it seem like a baseless attack. I do not think it is unreasonable to attack Iwata on his business practices, especially looking at the Wii U and the very late entry into the mobile market.

ID did this to with Doom and Quake. Today we have demos to test a game. People have the opportunity to see if they like it and buy it afterwards. Nothing wrong with that.

I agree on the point you've said in this kind of context. I didn't saw it. But, still, I don't agree with his way of necessarily saying it like that, knowing his position on Nintendo.



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Slimebeast said:

So it's okay to lash out on a tirade of hate against a living man because he happened to criticize the strategy of a dead business leader.

Great logic. Fantastic sense of justice.

A dead person can't defend himself. I guess, yes. It's the best I could do.



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Peh said:
Slimebeast said:

So it's okay to lash out on a tirade of hate against a living man because he happened to criticize the strategy of a dead business leader.

Great logic. Fantastic sense of justice.

A dead person can't defend himself. I guess, yes. It's the best I could do.

Of course decent people are more careful when they criticize the dead, but the dead shouldn't be immune. And they aren't immune, at least not in our Western culture.

And speaking of being able to defend, it's impossible for Pachter to defend himself against all the hate he receives. Hate that he never would get face to face, but behind his back on internet forums.

Pachter talking negative about Iwata is not a problem. He didn't talk negative. In the video he was professional and refered to a business strategy that is still in action at Nintendo (Pachter believes so).

But gamers talking negative about Pachter is a big, constant problem. Not in this thread, but we all know how disrespectful people are about Pachter. He's an idiot, stupid, moron etc.

Personally I dislike Patcher threads, not because of Patcher, but because of all the immature and vile hate thrown towards him.



it's ok to have an opinion but when you do this you're an asshole, just like those who say "omg paul walker was not a good actor" etc etc, it's the same thing. The person is dead and a lot of people like to respect their memories, don't be a fucking asshole because you're "above and your opinions are important" please.



vivster said:
DélioPT said:
Not his best comment, for sure. You just don't mix a comment about his passing with a comment about his skills...

Why not?

it's disrespectful and immature.



Slimebeast said:
Peh said:

A dead person can't defend himself. I guess, yes. It's the best I could do.

Of course decent people are more careful when they criticize the dead, but the dead shouldn't be immune. And they aren't immune, at least not in our Western culture.

And speaking of being able to defend, it's impossible for Pachter to defend himself against all the hate he receives. Hate that he never would get face to face, but behind his back on internet forums.

Pachter talking negative about Iwata is not a problem. He didn't talk negative. In the video he was professional and refered to a business strategy that is still in action at Nintendo (Pachter believes so).

But gamers talking negative about Pachter is a big, constant problem. Not in this thread, but we all know how disrespectful people are about Pachter. He's an idiot, stupid, moron etc.

Personally I dislike Patcher threads, not because of Patcher, but because of all the immature and vile hate thrown towards him.

The hate doesn't come from nowhere. I've seen his videos since he was really active on gametrailers.com and the hate grew towards him with each episode being released. The majority of the community wanted him out and he left.

So what's the reason for all the hate? The reason could be, that he tries to be someone who knows gaming business. He does bold predictions like this:

https://www.gamnesia.com/articles/heres-why-michael-pachter-is-wrong-about-a-console-free-next-gen

And people remember him from doing such stuff. He admitted once that he has no clue what Nintendo is up to, yet, he still acts like he does.

Some of his reasoning is well received, but looking back, most of his is not.

 



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