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WagnerPaiva said:
Captain_Yuri said:

But thats the issue. They cant afford to make it at this price again unless the hardware is powerful which I doubt it will be. If the hardware isnt powerful for that price, people will lose interest from the beginning like how the wiiu was...

We will see. It is granted they can sell at least a couple of million units in the first month, I think. Extra 50 bucks in profits could assure 100 million in the fiscal year, pretty decent.

Yea but the wiiU sold a couple of million initially and look how that turned out in the long run... It has to sell much more than a couple of million and the sales have to be consistant. They have to either make it a powerful hardware and price it at $300-350 or make it not so powerful but price it at $200-$250. Otherwise, it will be another wiiU



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
WagnerPaiva said:

We will see. It is granted they can sell at least a couple of million units in the first month, I think. Extra 50 bucks in profits could assure 100 million in the fiscal year, pretty decent.

Yea but the wiiU sold a couple of million initially and look how that turned out in the long run... It has to sell much more than a couple of million and the sales have to be consistant. They have to either make it a powerful hardware and price it at $300-350 or make it not so powerful but price it at $200-$250. Otherwise, it will be another wiiU

Sure, low price is great, power is great. But the name of the game is profit. If they can make a move to ensure extra flow of cash, even if for a couple of months, that can do wonders for the company health. It will all depends on how interesting the product is. This is Nintendo big advantage, we know they will not only show us a box that have specs, there will be a extra attraction in it, or so they say. I would like to talk about this again after reveal.

Specs comparition will be a part of it, but the main thing is the misterious new thing they want to bring to the table.

I remember how confident Reggie was on the WiiU tablet, and it failed.

In other hand, I remember how ridiculous I thought the Wii was, but it sold 110 million units. And, so they say, made a ton of profit for Nintendo.



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WagnerPaiva said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Yea but the wiiU sold a couple of million initially and look how that turned out in the long run... It has to sell much more than a couple of million and the sales have to be consistant. They have to either make it a powerful hardware and price it at $300-350 or make it not so powerful but price it at $200-$250. Otherwise, it will be another wiiU

Sure, low price is great, power is great. But the name of the game is profit. If they can make a move to ensure extra flow of cash, even if for a couple of months, that can do wonders for the company health. It will all depends on how interesting the product is. This is Nintendo big advantage, we know they will not only show us a box that have specs, there will be a extra attraction in it, or so they say. I would like to talk about this again after reveal.

Specs comparition will be a part of it, but the main thing is the misterious new thing they want to bring to the table.

I remember how confident Reggie was on the WiiU tablet, and it failed.

In other hand, I remember how ridiculous I thought the Wii was, but it sold 110 million units. And, so they say, made a ton of profit for Nintendo.

The wiiU's big disadvtange was its price tag for performance

The wii's big advantage was its price tag for its gimmicks

$200-$250 = impluse buy. No one has issues to try on something new if its $200-$250. But if the wii was $300-$350, it would have not sold as well considering the 360 was $400 and that sold really well.

Name of the game is profit but not for short term. Short term profitibility does not do anything if it affects the company's long term sales... If they make money for the first quarter and then lose the next 3, then the end result is a loss, not a gain. The NX needs to take off because it is coming from the wiiU. If the market thinks that it is another wiiU and they lose confidence from the start, it might end up having less sales from the wiiU which = less profits...



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
WagnerPaiva said:

Sure, low price is great, power is great. But the name of the game is profit. If they can make a move to ensure extra flow of cash, even if for a couple of months, that can do wonders for the company health. It will all depends on how interesting the product is. This is Nintendo big advantage, we know they will not only show us a box that have specs, there will be a extra attraction in it, or so they say. I would like to talk about this again after reveal.

Specs comparition will be a part of it, but the main thing is the misterious new thing they want to bring to the table.

I remember how confident Reggie was on the WiiU tablet, and it failed.

In other hand, I remember how ridiculous I thought the Wii was, but it sold 110 million units. And, so they say, made a ton of profit for Nintendo.

The wiiU's big disadvtange was its price tag for performance

The wii's big advantage was its price tag for its gimmicks

$200-$250 = impluse buy. No one has issues to try on something new if its $200-$250. But if the wii was $300-$350, it would have not sold as well considering the 360 was $400 and that sold really well.

Name of the game is profit but not for short term. Short term profitibility does not do anything if it affects the company's long term sales... If they make money for the first quarter and then lose the next 3, then the end result is a loss, not a gain. The NX needs to take off because it is coming from the wiiU. If the market thinks that it is another wiiU and they lose confidence from the start, it might end up having less sales from the wiiU which = less profits...

I understand what you are saying, and there is no wrong assertions or anything.

What I am saying is this: we all know new hardware from the big boys always sell out in the first 2 or 3 months, unless it is really really crappy or way to expensive.

So, I think Nintendo should, and I think they will, use this window, narrow as it is, to get extra profit from the early adopters. But maybe they will not do it, I do not know.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

I'm not spending 350$ on a console that won't be at least on par with the PS4.

Even the PS4 and One right begins to be outdated, especially with the Pro and Scorpio coming soon.

So if it's another WiiU, with old tech that won't even be used to its full potential... No thank you

And this thing better have a X86 architecture for the home version, if it's power PC I won't bother to buy it. I'm sick of the lack of third party support.



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The entire concept of he NX can't be made for a cheap price. I expect a disaster.



I'm one of the biggest Nintendo fanboys around, but $350 for a Nintendo console is way too much. If it launches at that price it will flop harder than the Wii U. The Wii U wasn't a very good Nintendo system. It didn't have a successor to Galaxy/Sunshine/Sixtyfour. 3D World was good, but it was just a sequel to Land that probably started life as a 3DS title. We have yet to get a new Zelda, for the system. Starfox was a flop. Most of the games on the Wii U could, and should be made as 3DS titles. All this is enough to wear down on even the most rabid fanboy, which is why I think it won't outsell the Wii U at that pricepoint.



They'll say something in October...they have to. If it isn't next week, it'll be the investors meeting.



MohammadBadir said:
The entire concept of he NX can't be made for a cheap price. I expect a disaster.

nintendo has no problem to sell a console, hybrid or handheld for $299 to hardcore nintendo fans, but if they want to reach the casual audience, price is king. and $299 will do nothing, when people already have a smartphone and ps4 or xbx1 for the same price.

i really hope this is not true at all. $199 is king



Its funny to see people here claiming that Nintendo is already doomed if they release the NX at the 300-350 dollar mark.Price is definelly an important point, but its not the defining one.As long as we know nothing about the NX as we do now, and base all our assumpsions on rumours that may or may not be true, you cant really take much out of this,again, rumor.What if the NX is a somewhat powerful machine, more capable than the PS4 for example?Not only that, it could have more features, outside of the gimmick, that could justify the price.Then it would make more than sense for it to sell at that pricepoint.Or it could not be any of these, and we are back at the point "its all a rumor".

Its kinda tiring to see people jumping to the same conclusion that "Nintendo can only sell consoles when they are cheap" mentality.You need to remember that Nintendo used to make powerful hardware and by that extend, expensive hardware.And Nintendo being the King of left fields, who knows if they wont make something that is worth that price again?Especially after the fact that they need to get away from the Wii brand and get back on everyones trust that they can make a great system.

Chill out people, and take all those rumors with a montain of salt.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1