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Darc Requiem said:
vivster said:

If all people who don't like either person refuse to vote then Trump is assured to win. Just vote for the party and not the person that is a mere representative with no real power.

Incorrect. We have the Electoral College. I live in a Red State. Hillary isn't winning my state. 

Well that sucks then. Forgot that they just always throw away nearly half of the votes in your country. Would be really cool though if some day the US could become a democracy.



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vivster said:
Azuren said:

This is what's wrong with the American voting system by large, and anyone with this mindset should lose the right to vote. 

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not^^

I'm not; voting entirely on party lines is irresponsible. 



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Azuren said:
vivster said:

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not^^

I'm not; voting entirely on party lines is irresponsible. 

Wait what? On what else should you base your vote if not the party's policy? It's even easier in the US since the party's policies are the polar opposite of each other.



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Bandorr said:
Voting blue in a blue state feels redundant.
Voting blue in a red state feels pointless.
Voting green in any state is a waste of time.

So unless I want to move to a battleground state - my vote is just pointless. Driving to a place, waiting in line all to cast my vote that will have absolutely no affect on anything.

I lived in Iowa. Being the first state to vote, its always ugly. Every waking second of your life is filled with political advertisements. Even work is filled with political arguments.



vivster said:
Azuren said:

I'm not; voting entirely on party lines is irresponsible. 

Wait what? On what else should you base your vote if not the party's policy? It's even easier in the US since the party's policies are the polar opposite of each other.

The actual candidate? Candidates don't always reflect their parties, you know. There are pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats, and voting entirely on party lines could easily land you an official that you wouldn't have voted for of you knew their policies. 



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Azuren said:
vivster said:

Wait what? On what else should you base your vote if not the party's policy? It's even easier in the US since the party's policies are the polar opposite of each other.

The actual candidate? Candidates don't always reflect their parties, you know. There are pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats, and voting entirely on party lines could easily land you an official that you wouldn't have voted for of you knew their policies. 

Please tell me how many presidents have actually actively pushed through policies against their party's will? The president is nothing, he is powerless without the party's support. It really makes absolutely zero difference what kind of carbohydrate blob has the crown when the policies are dictated by the party.

This election is even easier. Hillary is an empty shell that will do anything the party and her voters want. And while republicans love to distance themselves from Trump, all of them would support their policies.

It's ridiculous to base your vote on one person's hopes and wishes when that person is powerless alone. Just look at Obama. So many things he wanted to do but in the end couldn't do it. Not because he changed his mind but because he was powerless. 



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vivster said:
Azuren said:

The actual candidate? Candidates don't always reflect their parties, you know. There are pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats, and voting entirely on party lines could easily land you an official that you wouldn't have voted for of you knew their policies. 

Please tell me how many presidents have actually actively pushed through policies against their party's will? The president is nothing, he is powerless without the party's support. It really makes absolutely zero difference what kind of carbohydrate blob has the crown when the policies are dictated by the party.

This election is even easier. Hillary is an empty shell that will do anything the party and her voters want. And while republicans love to distance themselves from Trump, all of them would support their policies.

It's ridiculous to base your vote on one person's hopes and wishes when that person is powerless alone. Just look at Obama. So many things he wanted to do but in the end couldn't do it. Not because he changed his mind but because he was powerless. 

Obama literally just tried to veto something the majority of his party wanted, only for Republicans and Democrats to band together to overrule it. 



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bunchanumbers said:
Bandorr said:
Voting blue in a blue state feels redundant.
Voting blue in a red state feels pointless.
Voting green in any state is a waste of time.

So unless I want to move to a battleground state - my vote is just pointless. Driving to a place, waiting in line all to cast my vote that will have absolutely no affect on anything.

I lived in Iowa. Being the first state to vote, its always ugly. Every waking second of your life is filled with political advertisements. Even work is filled with political arguments.

I live in Texas, where my vote is automatically red. Be thankful you can actually make a difference. 



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