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$450

Too much! 278 79.43%
 
Too little! 23 6.57%
 
Just Right!! 49 14.00%
 
Total:350
GoOnKid said:
Culipechi said:
Sadly the videogames industry is dictated by the power of consoles.
The NX can be a car that cooks your dinner while lets you play, but if the graphics are less than the ps4 it cant be priced at the same level. People just dont listen to anything else than power.

While it's been like that for a long time now, actually, it's still very annoying -.-

Well, the bottom line for the vast majority of people is :

Where are the games?

How good will it play those games?

With the WiiU, the multiplats basically were nonexistent. Some minor early support, but that rapidly evaporated. First party wise I'd rate their exclusives pretty highly, but it took ages to get some of them out, and some never did materialize even to this day (mainline Zelda, a new Metroid, a new F-Zero). I'm not picking on them too much, because even wonderful titles like Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze underperformed in sales, and honestly Metroid and F Zero wouldn't have lit up the charts either.

So it played 1st party Nintendo titles fine, multiplats were rare, and the system was outclassed on multiplats by the PS4/X1. For $349.

What did the $349 get you? A goofy tablet thing that was poorly supported at best. A lot of times, just like with motion controls, the usage of it felt forced and unnecessary, where you'd rather just use the pro controller.

Forcing people to buy an expensive initial package to get something they don't necessarily want is a bad strategy. You can solve that later on by dropping the price substantially, but it may be too late in some cases. A faster solution is to just drop whatever is causing the price to be overextended and go from there.

Some examples are the PS3 and $599. It was incredibly aggressive in terms of packing in the very expensive BluRay tech, if it had been a DVD-based system it could have launched maybe at $399 for the 20GB model. That would have gone over a lot better. At least Sony had a good reason to push for that, as it arguably helped establish BD as the winner in the format war over HD-DVD, but at the cost of marketshare in consoles. Gen7 would have been interesting with PS3 starting at $399 and dropping price to $299 before long.

Also think of X1 and Kinect, $499. For the people that wanted Kinect, great, but to force everyone to pay $500 and get that packed in was a bad move. Sales quickly faded and even after claiming that kinect was inextricable to the Xbox One, they did end up pulling it of course and dropping the price. I know that SO MANY people clained that it wasn't a price drop, but to the consumer with a limited budget, that's exactly what it is.

FACT : if a gamer wanted the Xbox One to play games, and didn't care about Kinect, then being able to buy a kinectless model for $50 or $100 less WAS a $50-$100 price cut to the cost of entry, and that was a BIG deal.

That brings us full circle to WiiU, the tablet, and whatever NX is. I wouldn't have missed the tablet for a second if it never existed. All of the best games would have been absolutely fine with the pro controller and/or Wiimotes. $199 for a Nintendo system (preferably with a better name haha) and all of the same games would have sold far better. Like Microsoft and the Kinect2, Nintendo could never really market or make the tablet seem like a worthwhile reason to have a system cost so much more than it otherwise could have.

If NX is a sub-PS4/X1 system for $199/$249 with great nintendo exclusives, it will be a hit to some extent, maybe even a big one if marketed right. Starting out with a new mainline Zelda could really do wonders. 

If NX is a sub-PS4/X1 system for $399+ with some gimmicky thing that isn't necessary for the fun games (in more than a forced way), then good luck, this might be the last Nintendo system period.



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GoOnKid said:
Culipechi said:
Sadly the videogames industry is dictated by the power of consoles.
The NX can be a car that cooks your dinner while lets you play, but if the graphics are less than the ps4 it cant be priced at the same level. People just dont listen to anything else than power.

While it's been like that for a long time now, actually, it's still very annoying -.-

People dont buy a console, to have it drive them around, or make them dinner.

So those would be features that would drive the cost of the console up, while in no way enhanceing your gameing experiance.

Graphics atleast enhance the gameing experiance in some form.

 

Sony learnt that the hardway last gen. So this gen they are so focused on gameing, their willing to cut even minor price increases in hardware, that arnt nessary for gameing. It leaves you with a peice of very capable hardware for the cost of it (perf/$) which is something the general public responds well too. In general mass consumers love getting alot of bang-for-buck when they buy things.



Captain_Yuri said:
Doubt it unless it can teleport hookers into my room

you should copyright that idea, I would pay an enormous amount for it.




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So just to be clear, 77% of people think that 350 quid is too much....
For a console that usually has a life span of 5-6 years.....
Yet the new iPhone 7 has a RRP in the UK of between 599 quid and 919 quid depending on what model you buy....
And you'll want a new one in a years time....
And people are lining up and down the street to get one......
And everyone will complain the NX isn't powerful enough but still want it for under 350 quid....

You all have champagne tastes on a beer budget.....



tripenfall said:
So just to be clear, 77% of people think that 350 quid is too much....
For a console that usually has a life span of 5-6 years.....
Yet the new iPhone 7 has a RRP in the UK of between 599 quid and 919 quid depending on what model you buy....
And you'll want a new one in a years time....
And people are lining up and down the street to get one......
And everyone will complain the NX isn't powerful enough but still want it for under 350 quid....

You all have champagne tastes on a beer budget.....

I agree with you



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Graphics atleast enhance the gameing experiance in some form.

 

 

That's a very subjective statement. Graphics can improve the gaming experience but in my experience, they often hinder it more. Frame rate drops and lack of controller responsiveness to accommodate "realistic" character animations in movement are two common examples of this. A less subjective statement would be that better graphics appeal more to hardcore gamers.



tripenfall said:
So just to be clear, 77% of people think that 350 quid is too much....
For a console that usually has a life span of 5-6 years.....
Yet the new iPhone 7 has a RRP in the UK of between 599 quid and 919 quid depending on what model you buy....
And you'll want a new one in a years time....
And people are lining up and down the street to get one......
And everyone will complain the NX isn't powerful enough but still want it for under 350 quid....

You all have champagne tastes on a beer budget.....

Essentially though it isn't going to give me what I want for the money. I don't game on the go, so the money I'm spending on the hardware to allow the NX to be a handheld is more than likely a waste of my money. 

 

And outside of Japan, I essentially see this being another tact on gimmick that's convenient if the need arises, but most of the time that screen is gonna do little more than stay in its dock. 



tripenfall said:
So just to be clear, 77% of people think that 350 quid is too much....
For a console that usually has a life span of 5-6 years.....
Yet the new iPhone 7 has a RRP in the UK of between 599 quid and 919 quid depending on what model you buy....
And you'll want a new one in a years time....
And people are lining up and down the street to get one......
And everyone will complain the NX isn't powerful enough but still want it for under 350 quid....

You all have champagne tastes on a beer budget.....

I think the iPhone is a spectacular waste of money. I had one for free from work, a 5S, and my new $59 R1HD is hands-down superior for my uses. I also feel the Galaxy S flagships are way too damned expensive to make sense as well. I liked my S3, S4, and S5s hardware wise, but it's past the time when the competition has provided better value for money, and Samsung's extra nonsense on top of Android is a mess (even worse if you have a carrier device piling on more spamware to boot).

Now if phones are your thing, or you MUST have some widget or whatever, fine. Personally I'm done blowing tons of money on something when this device is already so fast.

iPhones also cost around $300 to make, so there's that as well, they jack up the price like maniacs because they can, and they have enough brand-loyal freaks to get away with it.

So don't put me in that bucket, not everyone is on the 'burn money' phone treadmill. Screw that noise.



$400 is really expensive for what it is, basically a Mario, Zelda and Splatoon box. They won't sell 10 millions NX a year at this price.

They realistically can't price it more than the current gen, so $300. They priced Wii at $249 and it worked very well for them. The Wii U was priced $300 / $349 and we know the rest.

I expect (hope for them) a 249$ price.



Why do people keep reporting placeholders? It said Dec 31, 2016, so what else could it be? And I can almost guarantee it won't cost that much anyway.