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Scoobes said:
Azuren said:

Okay, you're done. Hillary Clinton is awful and you're just awful at proving it, especially when it's just simply too easy. 

 

Hillary Clinton compromised national security. She lied on numerous occasions about it. Then got caught. When she was caught, she claimed not ignorance, but incompetence. The person that many want to be our nation's most powerful figure is so mind-blowingly awful at what she does that she couldn't even pay attention for a 15 minute briefing on how classified information is labeled.

 

So now we're stuck with two potential characters in Hillary; the one that she wants us to believe is an incompetent fool unfit to run a country, and the one that might be hosting become that facade whole planning who knows what. 

 

Full disclosure, I don't want Trump to be president. I did at one point early in the race, but he's become increasingly hostile towards people that he doesn't need to be hostile towards. He's opened his mouth and awful, awful things have come out. But you know what? 

 

We know what kind of person he is. He's not a wildcard, he's just a bad one. 

 

Hillary, on the other hand, is a card equally bad (but in a different way)... Unless she's actually a maniac. So I just don't care to sit by and listen to people compare her and Trump, only to act like one is better. They're two different flavors of shit; diarrhea and green diarrhea. Stop acting like your political party chose the less shit candidate, because it didn't. 

@ bolded

How many politicians do you think are equally incompetent and have also compromised national security but just haven't been caught (at least in public)? I suspect there's a scary number of politicians who are equally as incompetent in that regard. 

Then at least they weren't so incompetent that they got caught. 



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Dunban67 said:
SkepticallyMinded said:
Laughable post OP

Great contribution to the conversation.   THe world needs uninformed followers too i expect  but we already have too many-  That is why we are in this position in the first place.

Similarly to the "Elvis is still alive man" crowd, some ideas simply do not warrant a response other than ridicule and disdain. I do not care if your delicate sensibilities are harmed by my succinct and direct reply.



The issue what to do if Hillary faints while in the Situation Room or meeting with Putin and the like.

It is true she has a replacement but Presidential Elections are about the person on top really, not who they can be replaced by really.



mountaindewslave said:

sorry but I'd take a semi-sketchy-health Hilary over Donald Trump any day of the week. realize that Presidential candidates have teams behind them, its not as if she'd be operating 100% with no help. and worse case scenario someone will step up if she were to die in office, the VP. its just what happens

for the record I think Clinton is a bit of a bought and paid for name however Donald Trump is egotistical, racist, cannot relate to the average person at all, and dangerous in terms of international policy.

He won't win the election and things like constantly discussing Hilary's health are just desperate ploys to try and give him a chance. Sorry but the average American doesn't trust a racist billionaire to do the job. Maybe either candidate would be poor choices, but at least Hilary doesn't spout out with racist comments every 5 minutes

 

 

He will likely get 60 million votes out of 120 million or so, I am not sure what you mean by that? 



fatslob-:O said:
sundin13 said:

Now as far as the Clinton Foundation is concerned, yes, I believe that potentially making massive sums of money by making personally favorable decisions in foreign policy is significantly more of a threat than people donating to a charitable organization. The Clintons don't make money fromt he Clinton Foundation (including salary http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-09-16/the-clinton-foundation-vs-the-trump-foundation ). Further, the figure you pulled up (85 people) first of all doesn't say anything about whether the access was granted due to donations, and even if it was, that was 87 people out of thousands (AP decided to skew that figure as much as they could) and if you actually read the details of what was found, there was absolutely nothing untoward about any of those meetings. When the biggest hit you can find on the foundation is that she met with a Nobel Peace Prize winner and spoke to someone who was involved with AIDS charity while running an AIDS charity, you ain't got shit.

But yeah, I can see you have no interest in any actual discussion so I think this discussion has run its course.

Fine, deny all the evidence you want but the emails are there just to show how the Clinton Foundation donors colluded with the Secretary of State at that time ... 

LOL, Infowars the site that is run by right wing conspricacy nut and snake oil salesman Alex Jones my asshole is a more creditable source of information than that garbage site.



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Azuren said:
Dunban67 said:

using the "racist" lable as a means to disparage a candidate you do not support is one of the 1st signals to me that that person really has no idea and they are just following somoeon else lead-  be your own person -  don t go straight to th eHC campagn talking points - come up w something that might be true, helpful acurate???  

Okay, you're done. Hillary Clinton is awful and you're just awful at proving it, especially when it's just simply too easy. 

 

Hillary Clinton compromised national security. She lied on numerous occasions about it. Then got caught. When she was caught, she claimed not ignorance, but incompetence. The person that many want to be our nation's most powerful figure is so mind-blowingly awful at what she does that she couldn't even pay attention for a 15 minute briefing on how classified information is labeled.

 

So now we're stuck with two potential characters in Hillary; the one that she wants us to believe is an incompetent fool unfit to run a country, and the one that might be hosting become that facade whole planning who knows what. 

 

Full disclosure, I don't want Trump to be president. I did at one point early in the race, but he's become increasingly hostile towards people that he doesn't need to be hostile towards. He's opened his mouth and awful, awful things have come out. But you know what? 

 

We know what kind of person he is. He's not a wildcard, he's just a bad one. 

 

Hillary, on the other hand, is a card equally bad (but in a different way)... Unless she's actually a maniac. So I just don't care to sit by and listen to people compare her and Trump, only to act like one is better. They're two different flavors of shit; diarrhea and green diarrhea. Stop acting like your political party chose the less shit candidate, because it didn't. 

If I wanted to prove how bad Hillary is, I could write a book-( You left out plenty)  it would be easy-   But you missed my point-  I want people to think for themselves-  to do some research for themselves  -  When i see the constant ignorance tossed around in these pages i am amazed-  I don t view a person as ignorant due to  who/what the beleive but how they get there-  I see the same abreviated talking points over an over and people just go along w them-  I have seen the same name calling  ( I m not talking about just in this forum string)  over and over but little to no substance behind it- 

And i don t think  you know what kind of person Trump is and i don t get the feeling most are willing to find out (the good and the not so good) -  it slike the people who make very confrontational post about articles that they have not read - they read te headline and think they know what the article says-  exept this is not about something relativly unimportant like game consoles and gaming-   it is about who will be th ePresident of or country. 



sundin13 said:

Infowars is basically a tabloid site which frequently posts false information and this article posts absolutely nothing in the way of sources. Got any sources that are even mildly trustworthy?

The worst thing that I have seen any solid proof of from this whole debacle is Clinton maybe meeting with donors, and that has already been deemed to be entirely legal.

http://www.newsweek.com/john-dean-why-pay-play-charges-against-clinton-are-bogus-496742

Sure thing ... 

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Here's Clinton granting a few nations who happen to be donors to the Clinton Foundation weapon deals ...

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/24/clinton-approved-arms-sales-big-donations-bahrain/

Here's Crown Prince of Kingdom of Bahrain (a nation with poor record of human rights) getting access to Clinton for which he failed to get access through "normal channels" but what's more is that she approved an arms sale for which they then later used it for "suppressing uprisings" ... 

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/03/exclusive-bill-clinton-got-millions-from-worlds-biggest-sharia-law-education-firm/

Bill Clinton get's promoted to "honorary chairman" to the world's largest SHARIA LAW education firm while accepting money for the Clinton Foundation ?! 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/17/hillary-clinton-gmo-support-monsanto-ties-spark-ba/

Monsanto donates to Clinton and the next thing you know she promotes GMO's ... 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-charity-tapped-foreign-friends-1426818602

Mr, Schoen then reveals that the purpose behind the meetings between Clinton and Viktor Pinchuk (a Clinton Foundation donor) was to make the US government pressure former president Viktor Yanukovych to release Yulia Tymoshenko ... 

And then we get to Gilbert Chagoury (denied visa cause of shady connections) and George Soros both of which are billionaires and Clinton Foundation donors which disturbingly shows pay to play going on in the emails ... 

The peer pressure is as real as it gets ... 



Chris Hu said:

LOL, Infowars the site that is run by right wing conspricacy nut and snake oil salesman Alex Jones my asshole is a more creditable source of information than that garbage site.

Likewise, your credibility regarding Trump is very low ... 



SkepticallyMinded said:
Dunban67 said:

Great contribution to the conversation.   THe world needs uninformed followers too i expect  but we already have too many-  That is why we are in this position in the first place.

Similarly to the "Elvis is still alive man" crowd, some ideas simply do not warrant a response other than ridicule and disdain. I do not care if your delicate sensibilities are harmed by my succinct and direct reply.

You don t offend me-  I am just amazed every day at how many sheep are out there and many will vote



Shadow1980 said:
Can I sue someone for making me roll my eyes so much that I injured them?

It is America-  You can sue anyone for any reason at any time...unfortunately