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GribbleGrunger on 15 September 2016
“I think that the $399 price point is a pretty big move by Sony, particularly with a launch this fall,” Pachter said. “It’s hard to justify buying a $299 Xbox One S when you get twice the HDD and future proof for 4K by buying the PS4 Pro.  I really think this puts Microsoft in a hole with Scorpio, as they will arrive a year late, and will have to charge competitively even to remain in the picture. Ideally, Microsoft can launch Scorpio for $299, but I don’t expect that to happen.  If PS4 Pro is $349 by next holiday, Microsoft is really in a tough spot.”
More at the link:http://gamingbolt.com/michael-pachter-ps4-pros-price-puts-microsoft-in-a-hole-with-the-scorpio#lQgo3RusxX8PKHbl.99


 

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Oneeee-Chan!!! on 15 September 2016

Did Gamingbolt wright? It's a rare article !



GribbleGrunger on 15 September 2016
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

Did Gamingbolt wright? It's a rare article !

I'm not keen on Gamingbolt but it's what Patcher is saying that matters here. I think he's right and regardless of whether the chipsets get cheaper by the end of next year, MS will likely have to take a loss on the Scorpio, something I have a feeling won't go down well across the company.



 

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Fei-Hung on 15 September 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

Did Gamingbolt wright? It's a rare article !

I'm not keen on Gamingbolt but it's what Patcher is saying that matters here. I think he's right and regardless of whether the chipsets get cheaper by the end of next year, MS will likely have to take a loss on the Scorpio, something I have a feeling won't go down well across the company.

Vega is set to launch at the end of July I think, meaning even if MS launch around October, it will still need to be manufactured and distributed.



GribbleGrunger on 15 September 2016
Fei-Hung said:

Vega is set to launch at the end of July I think, meaning even if MS launch around October, it will still need to be manufactured and distributed.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Scorpio comes in a tower.



 

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Soundwave on 15 September 2016

Microsoft's best bet would be to improve on ways beyond just GPU power. Have a better CPU and more RAM (this will be a stab through the heart of the PS4 Pro).

Also move up the Scorpio date to August 2017 (Madden time) or even earlier if possible. Just make sure you have a few very nice looking games for launch. 

Killer Instinct 4K, some third party stuff, you don't need Halo VR right for day 1. 



Uabit on 15 September 2016

Scorpio's hardware will put pro in a hole.



thismeintiel on 15 September 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

Did Gamingbolt wright? It's a rare article !

I'm not keen on Gamingbolt but it's what Patcher is saying that matters here. I think he's right and regardless of whether the chipsets get cheaper by the end of next year, MS will likely have to take a loss on the Scorpio, something I have a feeling won't go down well across the company.

Haven't you heard? The Scorpio will now be a 8-10 Tflops GPU+a high end CPU+12GB of RAM AND still launch at $399.  Well, some Xbox fans would have you believe that. 

Seriously, though, the $399 launch price is great.  I think that's what Sony is going to aiming at from now on.  Which brings us to what is really going to hurt the Scorpio, the PS5.  Yes, the Pro is going to be what it's competing with for a year or so, and it has a year headstart, but launching so late in the gen means that the PS5 is just around the corner.  MS will only be able to boast about the power for a year or so, until the PS5 is announced and literally blows it out of the water on all fronts.  CPU, GPU, and RAM, all for $399.

I also think the Scorpio is going to launch for $499. MS has already made statements about how the GPU is as expensive as the PS3 at launch.  Sure, that's a bunch of BS, but I think that's just their way of getting people prepped for a higher pricepoint.  Even if it's $449 at launch, Sony only has to drop the Pro to $349 to keep the price difference large enough to justify the lower power.



 

thismeintiel on 15 September 2016
Uabit said:
Scorpio's Pro's hardware sales will put pro Scorpio in a hole.

Fixed it for ya. 



 

GribbleGrunger on 15 September 2016
thismeintiel said:

Haven't you heard? The Scorpio will now be a 8-10 Tflops GPU+a high end CPU+12GB of RAM AND still launch at $399.  Well, some Xbox fans would have you believe that. 

Seriously, though, the $399 launch price is great.  I think that's what Sony is going to aiming at from now on.  Which brings us to what is really going to hurt the Scorpio, the PS5.  Yes, the Pro is going to be what it's competing with for a year or so, and it has a year headstart, but launching so late in the gen means that the PS5 is just around the corner.  MS will only be able to boast about the power for a year or so, until the PS5 is announced and literally blows it out of the water on all fronts.  CPU, GPU, and RAM, all for $399.

I also think the Scorpio is going to launch for $499. MS has already made statements about how the GPU is as expensive as the PS3 at launch.  Sure, that's a bunch of BS, but I think that's just their way of getting people prepped for a higher pricepoint.  Even if it's $449 at launch, Sony only has to drop the Pro to $349 to keep the price difference large enough to justify the lower power.

Yes, I saw your comments about the PS5 and you're completely right. What people here and on other sites are doing is setting a precedent on what is acceptable as a considered rival. Now it's been accepted that over a year is OK, Sony will likely 'accidentally leak' some info on the PS5s development just before the Scorpio's launch. Of course people will make it a hypocritical argument in order to move the goalposts away from a precedent they set themselves but memories seem goldfish sized on most forums nowadays.



 

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