I did write 10+. But, if the PS5 is 11 Tflops and the XB2 is 10 Tflops, I bet I know someone who will be changing their tune.

If it doesn't run at 4K for every game it will get a lot closer (just like every PS4 game does not run at 1080p but most do). And it will probably run 4K movies. 

Which will be nice to have actual 4K content my 4KTV because I kinda bought it for (oh I dunno) 4K image quality. 

He doesn't need to see the future to tell you that MS is going to lose this generation by a wide margin. It's nearly 2:1, and Sony now has the advantage of entering the holidays with a 4K option while Microsoft struggles to get XB1S off the shelves after the hype died in a week.

Oh, well, I'm sure you'll enjoy it in 14 months.

So, there will be a difference but we will never know :D

I pesonally don't think there has been a really significant jump in graphics in a long time. Improvements yes, but not as significant as some people claim. Last game that really shocked me was Crysis. And that's what? 2007? I remember playing it on a extremelly powrful PC, DX10 with everything maxed out and while the monitor wasn't 4k it was still a way higher resolution than 1080p. It wasn't my PC, of course, and I knew that I wouldn't be able to run the game on mine so I didn't buy it. I bet a lot of people didn't buy for the same reason.

So you could say there was a huge difference between Crysis and everything else that year, but no one knew, or more precisely, no one cared. It be interesting to see how many people actually care about the Scorpio over the PS4 Pro, but to me, more importantly is seeing how many people care about the Pro over the vanilla PS4 itself.

No one knows for certain what will happen in the industry going forward, for all we know NX could be the best selling system two years from now. 

MS is getting much more competetive and making a lot more sound moves, there's no gauruntee Sony can just coast on MS' mistakes from 4 years ago forever. 

To be honest I don't really even give a shit. The whole point of this system selling dick waving is to have developer support, is it not? Well MS already gets pretty much all the developer support anyway, and with Scorpio because they have the better hardware they will resume getting the best multiplats in many cases just like XBox did over the PS2. 

The days when Sony could money hat like Grand Theft Auto are long since gone. 

So to me as a user, I couldn't care less, it's not like MS or Sony are giving me any of their profits. If I do choose Scorpio, I'm going to be getting all the big third party games and getting them with the best graphics. 

sales gap between ps4pro and xboxscorpio will be obvious too. as will be the number and quality of playstation exclusives compared to xbox exclusives. and since the scorpio isn't releasing till late 2017, guess what the performance gap between a ps5 (likely to happen 2019 or so) and the xboxscorpio will look like.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if MS has better hardware every step of the way from here on out.

I think the big take away (rightly or wrongly) that MS learned this generation is that XBox cannot be inferior hardware wise to the Playstation or they will lose big. And you can see that in the Scorpio unveiling, they emphasized over and over again that it's the most powerful gaming home console. 

The original XBox benefitted by being better than the PS2. The 360 was better than the PS3 in many ways and launched a full year earlier.

MS cannot expect things to go their way if they offer inferior hardware, the role of the XBox is to the better hardware option to whatever the Playstation is.

With Scorpio they are getting back to that, and they will likely do the same thing versus Playstation 5. If Playstation is the defacto console brand, then the role of the XBox has to be to be better than that at least hardware wise otherwise it won't be competetive. 

MS *must* have the power advantage, otherwise what's the point? They're basically making a Microsoft Playstation with worse specs and no one wants that. MS learned that the hard way with XBox One. 

They've already started

I hope Scorpio comes out a little earlier than Nov. 2017 too. September 2017 for example would be quite nice.