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seems someone had a good idea at Sony scrapping the useless 4K blue ray player in the last minute to make it 400 bucks

Not having 4k Blu ray seems to be the end of the world.

Not end of the world, but when you think about a Pro/Premium product or service you get some expectations, but as greenmedic88 said on another post, maybe the 4K blu ray market isn't big enough, we don't have those numbers but Sony surely does.

But anyway, I think that part of the problem is when you compare to the Xbox One S, specially because it's not a Pro/Premium product and it does have 4k blu ray people get somewhat confused.

Eh. 4k Bluray drives don't cost much.

Its crazy how on point Eurogamer's Leaks were. Congrats to them

I'd have liked it to be stronger (i wouldn't have minded paying more), but for $400 these are some great specs.

I would have preferred them launching at $449 and it being at least 5 Tflops and come with a 4K Bluray player. However, I don't think the mainstream gamer will really care. $399 is just too good a price to pass up. Especially since I fully expect the Scorpio to launch at $499+. MS is already getting people ready for a higher price, saying the GPU costs just as much as the PS3 at launch (which is complete BS.) If Sony cuts the price to $349 when the Scorpio launches, the power gap and 4K Bluray player isn't going to matter much.

For those specs $400 is a good price.

This worries me. This mid generation thing. Is this how gaming is going to continue to be? I mean, if there's a traditional PS5, where does it fit? Theoretically, this is Sony's answer to Microsoft's One S, but the One S isn't as capable as the Neo, and the Scorpio will be much more capable than the Pro, is Sony going to shoot back with something else that's more capable than Scorpio? I'm just genuinely concerned with the pacing of how consoles are releasing.

I'm sure the Scorpio is confirmed to be 6TF, 1.8 more than Pro. I'm sure that TFs of the Scorpio won't simply rely on GPU with bottlenecks and whatnot as TFs is the calulation and culmination of many processes into one unit of measurement, so the CPU will most likely outpace Pros as well. These are good specs, great pricing for what you're getting, but again, one upping Pro again within 3 years to combat Scorpio is something that I don't want sony to do.

The relative gap between the PS4Pro and a Scorpio will be about the same as the gap between an XBO and a PS4 (just reversed). Sony's answer to the One S is the PS4 Slim.

EDIT: @your edit, your math is wrong. 6 Tflops is 1.43 times as much as 4.2 Tflops.

I don't think so though. Where PS4 Slim is simply a Slim PS4, One S has slightly incerased TF over the One. And it has HDR. If Sony's answer to Scorpio is the Pro, the gap of power will differ greatly. As I said, Scorpio is 6TF, that's a huge leap over Pro, in the same way that PS4 was slightly better than the One in regards to TFs. The Scorpio will be more powerful than Pro, which has me worrying if Sony will try to release another console to respond to that gap in power.

Edit: I didn't say times...I said more...addition. Not um...multiplication? 4.2+1.8 =....6?