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Sony always cut the price with Slim. And price war is for losers. GameCube at some point was selling for 99 USD and it didn't even scratch ps2. Price drops only help when demand is getting saturated in said price tag, not to increase demand itself besides a one month boost at most.



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Mr.Playstation said:
LivingMetal said:

I've noticed current PS4 bundles with one game are around $350 USD.  The Xbox One S with Halo is $300 USD.  And let's not for get that the Xbox One just outsold the PS4 in North America in the month of July.  If Sony wants to keep thanking their supporters for making the PS4 the best selling console, the PS4 need to drop in price very soon.

Why should a current PS4 owner care if the PS4 gets a price-cut or not? If anything it makes it feel as if I lost by buying it before the price-cut.

 

Sony really has no reason to lower the Ps4's price to be honest, they need to make that profit.

Every time when the PS4 outsells the Xbox One according to the NPD, Sony thanks their supporters for making them the console of choice. This was what I was referring to. 



CGI-Quality said:

One company has played their cards, while the other has not (yet, we know something is coming). As others said, the timing of this topic doesn't really make sense, despite one's "right" to be pessimistic.

bunchanumbers said:
I know people don't like to say this, but now a large portion of Sony's profits are depending on the PlayStation. They can't do price war anymore.

Eh, Sony never engaged in price war with the PlayStation (even during the PS1/2 days when they were a much stronger company). No need to get into that (yes, they could do it) when they're doing as well as they are and making a nice chunk of money.

I'm not sure how accurate this article is but it shows Sony pretty much always price matched PS2 with the OG Xbox. PS1 also price matched the N64.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Price_cuts

If Sony wanted a bigger sales edge, they could just price match. But I can understand why they wouldn't.



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CGI-Quality said:

One company has played their cards, while the other has not (yet, we know something is coming). As others said, the timing of this topic doesn't really make sense, despite one's "right" to be pessimistic.

Eh, Sony never engaged in price war with the PlayStation (even during the PS1/2 days when they were a much stronger company). No need to get into that (yes, they could do it) when they're doing as well as they are and making a nice chunk of money.

I'm not sure how accurate this article is but it shows Sony pretty much always price matched PS2 with the OG Xbox. PS1 also price matched the N64.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Price_cuts

If Sony wanted a bigger sales edge, they could just price match. But I can understand why they wouldn't.

According to that article, Sony was the first to drop the price of the PS2, and MS and Nintendo followed suit. So how is that them matching the price? Looks to me that MS was playing catch up, not Sony. It shows the same thing for the PS1 era, too.

Looks more like the market leader would drop their price, and the others quickly followed.



thismeintiel said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm not sure how accurate this article is but it shows Sony pretty much always price matched PS2 with the OG Xbox. PS1 also price matched the N64.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Price_cuts

If Sony wanted a bigger sales edge, they could just price match. But I can understand why they wouldn't.

According to that article, Sony was the first to drop the price of the PS2, and MS and Nintendo followed suit. So how is that them matching the price? Looks to me that MS was playing catch up, not Sony. It shows the same thing for the PS1 era, too.

Looks more like the market leader would drop their price, and the others quickly followed.

Either way, Sony was more competitive at pricing with PS1 and PS2 consoles even though they were huge market leaders. Sony was trying to keep the PS3 price low as possible and they lost a lot of money in the process.

PS4 could have price matched X1 at $299. But its safe to assume they don't want to trade potential profits for a bigger lead.



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JRPGfan said:
LivingMetal said:

I see what you're saying, and honestly, I haven't been keeping up with the the different sales during those times.  I do think that the current console gen is reaching critical mass when price plays a bigger factor over content for the "casual" shopper.  So I can see how with current hardware offerings that the Xbox One can be seen as more appealing.

If that was true the Xbox One should have won that month by much more than 10k.

Games still matter, as do preceptions of value, and the hype for the future of the systems.

Xbox isnt getting any of these: (and that matters to some Id say)

 

 

 

Vat is dis game?



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COKTOE said:
JRPGfan said:

Vat is dis game?

Persona 5

Its a turn based RPG, what your seeing is a gif of a the typical victory screen, where you see exp + money + item gained, its just on a animated background, useing ingame graphics.



JRPGfan said:

If that was true the Xbox One should have won that month by much more than 10k.

Games still matter, as do preceptions of value, and the hype for the future of the systems.

Xbox isnt getting any of these: (and that matters to some Id say)

I think the games matter to a certain extent, but as far as the casual market goes, the system that sells best is usually the cheaper one. PS3 arguably had the best exclusive line up of its generation and came in dead last in America. It was the highest price system out the gate, and it only became competitive when the prices went down.

I still believe the PS4 will get a pricecut, and it will again overtake monthly sales in the states within the next few months because the brand is better, but the primary reason the console will consistently stay ahead in the US is if it remains competitive in the price department.



JRPGfan said:
COKTOE said:

Vat is dis game?

Persona 5

Its a turn based RPG, what your seeing is a gif of a the typical victory screen, where you see exp + money + item gained, its just on a animated background, useing ingame graphics.

Gah! Ok I should have known that, just from the little cat character ( can't remember his name ). I don't watch a ton of game videos, so even games I'm interested in can be pretty unfamiliar to me before release.



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CGI-Quality said:
danasider said:

I think the games matter to a certain extent, but as far as the casual market goes, the system that sells best is usually the cheaper one. PS3 arguably had the best exclusive line up of its generation and came in dead last in America. It was the highest price system out the gate, and it only became competitive when the prices went down.

I still believe the PS4 will get a pricecut, and it will again overtake monthly sales in the states within the next few months because the brand is better, but the primary reason the console will consistently stay ahead in the US is if it remains competitive in the price department.

Has the cheapest system always won the US?

I doubt always (Gamecube was cheaper than PS2 and lost big time), but at these last two generations show that price matters. And there were high priced machines from Panasonic and Neo-Geo and such that were'nt even considered competitors because of how rediculous their prices were back in the day. Maybe the cheapest machine hasn't always won the west, but the hitting of the value sweetspot where price isn't too different from competitors and brand name/games support the system probably does.

Point is, price matters...especially for non-core gamers who buy these systems on big days like Black Friday and Christmas. I think X1 won Black Friday last year, if I remember correctly, because it had a $300 system with games.