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SWORDF1SH said:
Please keep the Pro predictions on a leash, we'll only hear downplaying if it fails to hit your lofty targets. I can see the comments now "hahaha 950k and 'a lot of people' were predicting over 1M hahaha".

This is the statement I'm answering:

'Ps4 pro will sell 1mill ww this year.
Mark my words'

Trust me, it's going to sell a hell of a lot more than 1m 'this year', 'Worldwide'.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:

3 hours since last update:

HARDWARE

#03 PS4Pro (same)*
#24 PS4 Black Ops III Bundle
(up 1)
#37 XB1s-500gb Halo Bundle (down 3)
#36 Scorpio Spec Sheet (up 1)*
#48 PS4s UC4 Bundle (up 1)
#54 PS4 UC4 Bundle (down 1)
#64 N3DSXL Galaxy (up 4)
#73 XB1s-2tb (up 4)
#98 PS4 Fool's Edition (same)
#XB1s-1tb Madden Bundle (re-entry)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#10 3DS Pokemon Moon (up 1)
#13 3DS Pokemon Sun (down 1)
#17 3DS Pokemon Sun&Moon (same)
#29 3DS Dragon Quest VII (up 2)
#34 XB1 Recore (up 3)
#88 XB1 FH3 Ultimate Edition (down 5)

Does not affect this month (*)

Too bad there isn't an Europe Amazon.



GribbleGrunger said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Please keep the Pro predictions on a leash, we'll only hear downplaying if it fails to hit your lofty targets. I can see the comments now "hahaha 950k and 'a lot of people' were predicting over 1M hahaha".

This is the statement I'm answering:

'Ps4 pro will sell 1mill ww this year.
Mark my words'

Trust me, it's going to sell a hell of a lot more than 1m 'this year', 'Worldwide'.

And then we had somebody say 1M in US alone. We shouldn't be making wild predictions off of a few days of data. 



SWORDF1SH said:

And then we had somebody say 1M in US alone. We shouldn't be making wild predictions off of a few days of data. 

I'll say 1m in the US this year



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
SWORDF1SH said:

And then we had somebody say 1M in US alone. We shouldn't be making wild predictions off of a few days of data. 

I'll say 1m in the US this year

Lol you should know better young man. It depends what Sony decide to promote more aggressively this holiday and which one will get the big 3rd party bundles. Do we have any idea of the profit margin for each? That might give us an idea which one Sony will want to push more.



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SWORDF1SH said:

Lol you should know better young man. It depends what Sony decide to promote more aggressively this holiday and which one will get the big 3rd party bundles. Do we have any idea of the profit margin for each? That might give us an idea which one Sony will want to push more.

It's not that bold. Pre-orders for Sep/Oct/Nov and sales for December.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Lol you should know better young man. It depends what Sony decide to promote more aggressively this holiday and which one will get the big 3rd party bundles. Do we have any idea of the profit margin for each? That might give us an idea which one Sony will want to push more.

It's not that bold. Pre-orders for Sep/Oct/Nov and sales for December.

Maybe you're right. I do think it depends on what Sony wants to push more. If they push them equally or Pro more it could do 1M based on initial impression for demand. If they go all out with a $250 Slim cod bundle with nothing for the Pro, that will seriously effect the Pro's sales.

My concern is we will hear that famous 'a lot of people' quote if it doesn't hit 1M. But Sony are in full control and the have a lot of good potential chess moves especially with PSVR coming soon. It depends on what pieces they want to move.



xl-klaudkil said:
xl-klaudkil said:
Ps4 pro will sell 1mill ww this year.
Mark my words

 

Ariakon said:

Yeah, considering Sony's projections, that would be...well, it wouldn't be good :)

How many  units  did sony project  for the pro?

They didn't give specific projections for the pro, but ps4 shipments are supposed to be 20 million from April 2016 to March 2017. Since that's even more than last year, when they shipped 8.4 million ps4's for the holiday quarter (October-December 2015) they're aiming for upwards of 9 million + shipped that quarter. 

I was just guessing before, and since a few days of Amazon data can only tell us so much, your estimate could always be a lot closer than mine :) 



SWORDF1SH said:
GribbleGrunger said:

This is the statement I'm answering:

'Ps4 pro will sell 1mill ww this year.
Mark my words'

Trust me, it's going to sell a hell of a lot more than 1m 'this year', 'Worldwide'.

And then we had somebody say 1M in US alone. We shouldn't be making wild predictions off of a few days of data. 

Here is how I made my obvious prediction: NPD November+Decemmber 2015: 1.539K+1.582K=3121K.

we know that the trend show a ps4 selling better than last year with the same price. So if we assume the ps4 sells 3Million in the Us this year, the slim (the old one will probably be dead by november) will need to sell more than twice the amound of ps4 pro to make my prediction wrong, And the pre-order trend is showing the complete opposite.

And also Sony would be stupid to push the ps4 slim sale over the Pro, other wise they wouldn't have hurry to make sure it release in the holliday season, the price of the ps4 pro beeing unly 50$ higher than the 1TB slim simply prove that it is the console they will push.  And I don't think they will make the same mistake with the ps4 launch shortages( which is imo the only argument that could make it sell bad).

so I predict 1Mill+ in the us but 2Mill isn't out of the range since it will have a launch boost lol.

Edit: I never used to make saved Prediction(pointless imo), I make a calculation, if I m right good, If Im wrong then I will know that I missed some crucial parameters that made my prediction wrong



                                               

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Swordmasterman said:
gtjay1982 said:
Wow #2 that is a huge spike.

PS4 Pro is selling very fast, like PSVR. But, of course, with much more units on stock.

This is the bad thing about the "Top" thing insteady of actual numbers. The Number 1 on the chartz can either be selling on par with the number 50 up to the 2 or selling multiple times more than the other products of Amazon.

Well we might not have numbers but during this gen wenn it comes to consoles(ps4, wiiu, x1), if a console is in the top 10 in the monthly and another isn't in the top ~60-70, you probably outsell it more than twice in NPD results.



                                               

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