Interestingly, something that touches up what I've said before, the PS4pro AND the PS4s are up on the UKs Amazon page. Remember I said that Sony are taking the opportunity to nail down the European market while MS have their focus entirely on the US? I think I was right.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/b?node=6790417031&pf_rd_p=c9a90e31-a8ed-4f53-817a-e4f3840d739e&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00BE4HOIM&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=FK4ZKA08PQR2F12MP9EC&tag=wwwshopstylec-20&ascsubtag=2153755439&tag=wwwshopstylec-20

This was the perfect meeting for what Sony hoped to achieve but people are so obsessed with linear thinking they're not understanding why Sony have moved a few pawns here and there. People are still happy with their PS4s and people are happy with the Pro (and buying it). Job done.

Damn, it sucks that the Slim isn't available to preorder. Would have loved to see the performance before the 15th. But, I guess Sony is letting stores get rid of as much OG PS4 stock as possible.

Me

I'm tempted just to pre-order now. Though I'd like to wait to see if some kind of trade in deals pop up.

Damn, ps4 pro got to number 1 in no time.

Did they announce for certain that the slim has no games bundled with it? They can certainly do that outside of NA, especially the UK, since Game and other retailers will just throw in a bunch of games for fun, but it seems odd that the American system will be bundleless. It just seems odd to me that it's not available for pre-order. 

If you look at the UK link I posted above, it's bundle with FIFA. I'd expect similar deals for the Slim in the US once Sony clear stock of the old PS4s and the PS4 Pro preorders begin to dwindle.

Ps4 pre order time

3 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PS4Pro (same)*
#26 XB1s-500gb Halo Bundle (up 1)
#40 PS4 Fool's Edition (up 2)
#53 PS4 Black Ops III Bundle (up 1)
#65 XB1s-1tb Madden Bundle (up 1)
#67 XB1s-2tb (up 7)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#07 3DS Pokemon Moon (same)
#09 3DS Pokemon Sun (same)
#11 3DS Pokemon Sun&Moon (down 1)
#34 3DS Dragon Quest VII (down 1)
#51 XB1 Recore (up 2)
#92 XB1 FH3 Ultimate Edition (up 6)

Does not affect this month (*)

I was wondering why the slim wasn't there. Oh well I guess we'll just have to enjoy the Pro domination for now!